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NVIDIA RTX 50 SERIES - Technical/General Discussion

Be interesting to see how well the FE 5090 heatsink handles almost 600 watts being put through it. Apparently they're using liquid metal on the gpu itself, should be interesting to see how much of a difference this makes when a reviewer inevitably removes it and replaces it with some other TIM
 
Fair play, no judgement from me!

Speaking of PSUs, i’m hoping my trusty RM850x can power a 9800X3D and 5090. Should be ok if the 5090 is as efficient as the 4090 and I can run it at 80% or so. I will at least try it before upgrading.

To be a bit more concise with answering that than just a yes, my use case-is two-fold, I do more production work than gaming, though i do enjoy my gaming too. One of my Lightroom export batches for example can use over 20GB VRAM, and going from 3080 Ti to 4090 I saw my export times drop from around 30 mins to under 20 mins, so it's a massive uplift. I am certain if there was more VRAM then this figure would drop even more as well.

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It took 6 minutes to export 429 RAW files post-processed in Lightroom to 1600px jpeg. This is a fairly typical batch and on the 3080 Ti would have take 4x or longer.

Note the system RAM use, might need 128GB going forwards :cry:
 
Be interesting to see how well the FE 5090 heatsink handles almost 600 watts being put through it. Apparently they're using liquid metal on the gpu itself, should be interesting to see how much of a difference this makes when a reviewer inevitably removes it and replaces it with some other TIM

This is what has me wanting to get an FE and a higher tier AIB card. The uncertainty of the FE performance, could be a better workstation card than gaming card.
 
Be interesting to see how well the FE 5090 heatsink handles almost 600 watts being put through it. Apparently they're using liquid metal on the gpu itself, should be interesting to see how much of a difference this makes when a reviewer inevitably removes it and replaces it with some other TIM

The use of liquid metal concerns me. If I were to fit a waterblock to it I wouldn't be using liquid metal (using PTM7950 instead) so this may hinder performance a bit.

More worryingly is if there was ever a warranty issue with the card - would they accept the warranty if it were to be returned to them with a TIM other than liquid metal? I would presume the GPU die is well protected from the LM so the end user may have to use LM with the FE anyway and those unfamiliar with it could make a right mess of it.
 
I'm AM4 and don't wish to change due to how much it cost to build in Covid.
I currently have a 5900X with a 3090 Suprim X

What would be my logical next move? Would a 5080 be the best or a used 4090 from the folk moving up to 5090's? (I don't think I can stomach spending over £2k again)

(I game at 4k on a 42 LG OLED. Max is 120fps)
Tough one - I was in a similar position just over a year ago. Realistically you're looking at upgrading to the AM5 platform and picking up one of the newer Ryzen CPUs eg. 9800X3D or the older 7800X3D if prices were to drop back to circa £325 again. Of course, you'd need to buy a new motherboard and memory. As for a GPU, for good performance at 4K, the options are limited ... and none are cheap. If you want ray tracing, good AI upscaling etc then NVIDIA is the only game in town, and you're looking at a 4080, 4090 or the newly announced 5080 / 5090. Sadly, gaming at 4K with good performance isn't cheap ... yes, it probably will mean another investment of £2K ( minus what you manage to sell your old gear for ).
 
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Yea but I feel like they've announced like 75% RT performance upgrades like 23 times, if these upgrades were really that effective, turning on pathfinding at this point would blow your monitor's back out as it desperately tries to deal with the gargantuan incoming fps
From 2080 to 4080 is around 4x - 4x+.
 
One other consideration is what games are coming down the pipeline that will push new hardware ? Not much on the horizon, if I'm being honest. Witcher 4 ? GTA 6 ? By the time these games come out the 6000 series of GPUs will be available. So perhaps, on reflection, I may just stick with my 4090 and skip a generation. I'm now more likely to upgrade my CPU to a 9950X3D, pending reviews.

This is the main thing making me seriously considering holding off. In 2025 particularly, there just aren't any massively demanding games that are coming out that may interest me. Nothing a 4090 is going to struggle with at 4k anyway.

My main issue was my CPU was starting to crawl in games like the Monster Hunter Wilds Beta and Black Myth Wukong, so I upgraded from a 5800X to a 9800X3D in November. That was more pressing than the GPU.

The main driver for me purchasing a 5090 is just wanting the best (greed) and also trying to figure out if I can justify it if the return on selling my 4090 is decent. Then I tell myself that gaming is my only expensive hobby and I should buy without guilt. None of these are the bottom line though, how much would it actually improve my gaming experience in the next 24 months? Not much probably.
 
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I did think about that last night after my last post, nothing coming out before 2027/2028 seems to paint a picture of a need for a GPU higher than a 4090, and I know for sure that come those years I will be on a 40" or greater ultrawide OLED pushing at least 240Hz and 5120x2160. Perhaps doing what I originally intended by skipping 50 series entirely is the wiser option and going 60 series when those games are out.
 
To be a bit more concise with answering that than just a yes, my use case-is two-fold, I do more production work than gaming, though i do enjoy my gaming too. One of my Lightroom export batches for example can use over 20GB VRAM, and going from 3080 Ti to 4090 I saw my export times drop from around 30 mins to under 20 mins, so it's a massive uplift. I am certain if there was more VRAM then this figure would drop even more as well.

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It took 6 minutes to export 429 RAW files post-processed in Lightroom to 1600px jpeg. This is a fairly typical batch and on the 3080 Ti would have take 4x or longer.

Note the system RAM use, might need 128GB going forwards :cry:
Oh awesome, thanks for sharing. I love hearing how people use their PC’s for more than gaming. I’m just a pleb gamer who also uses as Mac for my daily driver (sorry…). We’ll see how long I can justify these higher prices for, lol.
 
This is the main thing making me seriously considering holding off. In 2025 particularly, there just aren't any massively demanding games that are coming out that may interest me. Nothing a 4090 is going to struggle with at 4k anyway.

My main issue was my CPU was starting to crawl in games like the Monster Hunter Wilds Beta and Black Myth Wukong, so I upgraded from a 5800X to a 9800X3D in November. That was more pressing than the GPU.

The main driver for me purchasing a 5090 is just wanting the best (greed) and also trying to figure out if I can justify it if the return on selling my 4090 is decent. Then I tell myself that gaming is my only expensive hobby and I should buy without guilt. None of these are the bottom line though, how much would it actually improve my gaming experience in the next 24 months? Not much probably.
A rational post first thing in the morning. Who would have thought it! I agree on the CPU front. I bought a 4k 240hz monitor a few months ago and it has really highlighted how important the CPU is, not to mention the latest games generally being more CPU intensive. I think i’d take a 10800X3D (or more CPU perf if available) over a 5090 for my use case. It all comes down to if a 5090 FE is available. I’d need to spend £170-200 on a new case if i bought an AIB card anyway.
 
A rational post first thing in the morning. Who would have thought it! I agree on the CPU front. I bought a 4k 240hz monitor a few months ago and it has really highlighted how important the CPU is, not to mention the latest games generally being more CPU intensive. I think i’d take a 10800X3D (or more CPU perf if available) over a 5090 for my use case. It all comes down to if a 5090 FE is available. I’d need to spend £170-200 on a new case if i bought an AIB card anyway.
Haha, a momentary lapse probably!

Yeah, I'm thinking Founder's edition or nothing.
 
What do you mean by PCI-E 4.0 Mono? As in a 1x slot? I dont think you can get full length 1x lanes to physicaly even fit a GPU in, unless you are using one of those mad adaptors.

A PCI-E 4.0 16x slot is not going to cause any notable performance bottlenecks.
That was a typo, it meant to say mobo or motherboard. Good to know it won't make too much difference.
 
I’m looking forward to playing these on the 5090…..
Indian Jones
Alan wake 2
(Been holding off)
2025:
Asseto Corsa Evo
Mafia old country
Doom the dark ages
Civilization 7
Assassins creed shadows
Metal gear solid delta
Gears of war E-day
 
I’m looking forward to playing these on the 5090…..
Indian Jones
Alan wake 2
(Been holding off)
2025:
Asseto Corsa Evo
Mafia old country
Doom the dark ages
Civilization 7
Assassins creed shadows
Metal gear solid delta
Gears of war E-day
I want a 5090 for Battlefield 6, Witcher 4, Indiana Jones and Kingdom Come Deliverance 2.
Would have yet another playthrough of Cyberpunk. Give Alan Wake 2 a go again after giving up
 
Daniel Owen latest video makes the prospect of a 5080 more enticing for me as an upgrade from a 4080. He is referencing some posts that pixel count the uplift on the 4000 to 5000 and it comes out around 35% (with RT). So far more inline with the usual uplift with the price reductions.

As usual will wait for reviews and stock levels to normalise before deciding. If I do get a 5080 my 4080 could go in the son’s PC and I could sell his 7900 XT.

Daniel also showed that current leaks and speculation shows the 9070 XT could be a bit faster in raster compared to a 5070 and similar in RT. For that AMD need to undercut the 5070 by at least $50. History has shown that Nvidia mindshare is far to strong for people to chose AMD just for a bit more raster and a bit more VRAM.
 
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Daniel Owen latest video makes the prospect of a 5080 more enticing for me as an upgrade from a 4080. He is referencing some posts that pixel count the uplift on the 4000 to 5000 and it comes out around d 35%. So far more inline with the usual uplift with the price reductions.

He also showed the 9070 XT could be a bit faster in raster compared to a 5070 and similar in RT. For that AMD need to undercut the 5070 by at least $50. History has shown that Nvidia mindshare is far to strong for people to chose AMD just for a bit more raster and a bit more VRAM.
I saw that. I wonder how many people will really be turned off from the 5080 due to 16GB vram. Everyone is moaning yet due to the slightly lower than expected price, I think it will sell ok.

From the numbers he looks at it seems to be a pretty even 30-40% uplift across the whole 50 series line up. I think that would be pretty impressive if that applies to purely raster performance. Couple of weeks until we find out!
 
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