NVIDIA RTX 50 SERIES - Technical/General Discussion

[mahius]

Neural texture compression isnt free

Save vram at the cost of fps

So basically the same as not having enough VRAM then...

Zotac leaks the 5060 and 5060ti; both cards are 16gb

On the one hand that's great for those cards and card of that tier. On the other hand, all the more expensive cards now seem even worse being similar or worse to the entry level cards WRT to VRAM, especially a 12GB 5070.

Idk if there's space for Supers this gen since the 5000 series itself is like the 4000 super super. But if there is, everything 5070 and up needs increased VRAM.

 

[SeeNoWeevil]

The only way Nvidia can right this mess is with a £1000 5080 Super that has plenty of stock but that's major hopium.

 

[TNA]

So basically the same as not having enough VRAM then...

The amount of time people here go on about not having enough vram. Yet every game i have played that recently came out I never have issues.

STALKER 2 - No issues
Silent Hill 2 - No issues
God of War Ragnarok - No issues
Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth- No issues
Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 - No issues

All at 4K too with my measly 12GB.

I was even thinking of upgrading to a 5070Ti but will skip it. 12GB will be fine for me as it will take me about a year or maybe two just to complete the games above

Edit - Fixed typo. Not sure why it said you at the start of the sentence. Lol.

 

[Grim5]

The only way Nvidia can right this mess is with a £1000 5080 Super that has plenty of stock but that's major hopium.

5080 super will be $1500

 

[Sideeffect]

Bus size and Bandwidth also determines performance. Just because a lower tier card has the same amount of VRAM doesn't make me think the 5080 is worse. I didn't think the 3060 was better than the 3060 ti either.

 

[pcfarrar]

Have any if you had any problems like the card black screening because if the pci express 5 and driver update??

I've had 0 issues with my Asus 5080 and have probably done 50+ hours of gaming on it since purchase.

 

[andybird123]

So basically the same as not having enough VRAM then...

Actual vram issues typically result in severe stuttering, texture pop in and like literal dips to single digits FPS, so if you lose a little fps to avoid single digits dips then it is an improvement.

The truth is that vram issues are actually pretty rare outside of a couple of specific games.

I mean, my 3080 10gb wasn't having any vram issues either at 1440UW but then I don't play MSFS.

 

[hobib_ali]

anyone had a 50 card bricked with drivers? i'm seeing this online which is terrible if this is true

 

[hobib_ali]

The 4090 was out of stock on launch too, but in the intervening time it was easy to get hold of one and at MSRP. You're suffering from FOMO right now but just be patient. If I had a 4090 or even a 4080/S I would absolutely not be buying a 5 series card, I only went for a 5080 because I did get it at MSRP and I was on a 3080.

Once a card makes it past the 1 year point it's pretty rare for them to fail, like ever, hence why several AIBs do 5 year warranty as the warranty rate is still pretty low.

it seems the 50 launch is worse than the 30 series mining drought, the mining craze was crazy and lasted for months, this for the 50 series launch is way worse, and Nvidia knew this would happen, they let it happen.

 

[jonneymendoza]

anyone had a 50 card bricked with drivers? i'm seeing this online which is terrible if this is true

Had the same symptoms as a bricked card as soon as i installed it but tried a different pci slot and worked

 

[hobib_ali]

Had the same symptoms as a bricked card as soon as i installed it but tried a different pci slot and worked

ooof mate that shouldn't happen at all

did you try the card back in the original slot to see what it does? unless your pcie slot is playing up

 

[jonneymendoza]

ooof mate that shouldn't happen at all

did you try the card back in the original slot to see what it does? unless your pcie slot is playing up

Na. Left it where it is. It's in the same slot that my previous 3090 was. I wanted my 5090 to be in the lower slot but maybe that slots pci is being shared with the nvme. Not sure. It's a Threadripper board I have.

Before I installed it I did nuke the Nvidia driver for a fresh install

 

[SeeNoWeevil]

Let's be honest, AIB cards are terrible. Way too big, way too expensive, all look like they were designed by a 7yr old. Miniscule gains in any tangible metric. I'd understand their existence if they were abundant in stock but they can't even offer that. Guarantee me no coil whine for my £1300? Nah. You can have an ugly card that might not even fit in your case.

 

[Halliphax]

Na. Left it where it is. It's in the same slot that my previous 3090 was. I wanted my 5090 to be in the lower slot but maybe that slots pci is being shared with the nvme. Not sure. It's a Threadripper board I have.

Before I installed it I did nuke the Nvidia driver for a fresh install

Depending on the motherboard but most gaming motherboards these days have all PCIe lanes for the top slot dedicated to GPU only and other slots are shared with either the chipset or are also dedicated but have less lanes than the top slot (i.e bottom might be x8 and top might be x16 - so if bottom is shared with NVMe the GPU would drop from x8 to x4 - depending on how many lanes it had initially).

 

[Sin_Chase]

Has anyone else started tweaking their 5090 with an undervolt yet?

I've managed to maintain performance in line with stock with significantly less temps (5-8 Dec C lower) and less power draw (450W compared to 575W) with a curve UV. Targetted 2700@900mV and seems stable at the moment. I have seen other target 2900@900mv but not gone near those extremes yet. Be interested to see what other people have come up with.

 

[hobib_ali]

Has anyone else started tweaking their 5090 with an undervolt yet?

I've managed to maintain performance in line with stock with significantly less temps (5-8 Dec C lower) and less power draw (450W compared to 575W) with a curve UV. Targetted 2700@900mV and seems stable at the moment. I have seen other target 2900@900mv but not gone near those extremes yet. Be interested to see what other people have come up with.

why would u want to undervolt the gpu? to save power? isnt that a negative thing as by default your lowering the performance of the card

 

[SeeNoWeevil]

why would u want to undervolt the gpu? to save power? isnt that a negative thing as by default your lowering the performance of the card

Many GPUs are configured to use too much power from the factory to ensure stability on all chips. A lot of the time, you can retain the same performance while dropping the power consumption a decent chunk. Or you can flip it and use that extra overhead to overclock for more performance with the same factory power.

 

[0121danwilliams84]

Has anyone else started tweaking their 5090 with an undervolt yet?

I've managed to maintain performance in line with stock with significantly less temps (5-8 Dec C lower) and less power draw (450W compared to 575W) with a curve UV. Targetted 2700@900mV and seems stable at the moment. I have seen other target 2900@900mv but not gone near those extremes yet. Be interested to see what other people have come up with.

This is the first thing I am planning to do! Pretty good result so far. Same performance as stock at lower power is a must for this gen. Have you monitored the idle power usage? My 4090 goes to like 4w which is crazy and I have seen these 5090s at like 50/60w idle.

 

[Nitefly]

it seems the 50 launch is worse than the 30 series mining drought, the mining craze was crazy and lasted for months, this for the 50 series launch is way worse, and Nvidia knew this would happen, they let it happen.

how is it ‘worse’? It’ll be worse if the cards are scarce for longer.

why would u want to undervolt the gpu? to save power? isnt that a negative thing as by default your lowering the performance of the card

The voltage is there to make sure the GPU cores hit the target clocks, but they don’t necessarily need all of that voltage.

The main reason for undervolting is to make the card cooler and quieter (both fan noise and coil whine). Since the last few % of performance cost a much larger % of power many people think this is a worthwhile trade-off. Sometimes, as inferred, undervolting doesn’t even cause a performance hit.

 

[mattp1986]

No problems to report at all with my FE 5090 so far anyway, gaming at 5120x1440 paired with a 9800x3d it flies.
GPU power draw seems to hover around 500-550w depending on the game, haven't seen anything higher yet, temperatures are reasonable too, mostly 65-70c for extended periods of gaming in Cyberpunk, Wukong etc, which is pretty impressive for a 2 slot cooler tbh.
No sign of any coil whine so far which I did hear multiple reviews mention, maybe I got lucky. Certainly compared to my old TUF 4090 it's almost silent, the TUF card used to whine like crazy especially in menus etc.
Here's hoping the stock situation improves soon so people can get on board.

I actually managed to break into the top 100 on Port Royal in the 3D Mark Hall of fame with everything stock, no overclock lol, guess that shows how many of these things are actually out there being used atm