nzbmatrix quits

its due to the fact although nzb and torrents, although primarily used for illegal downloads. Is just a means to an end, and has legit uses.

Open Office, Linux Distribution, Free games, Gaming Clients with subscriptions, Free to download music. etc,etc

torrents are free. Nobody pays for a usenet sub to download that stuff.

I use usenet binaries as a backup service. Upload your encrypted backup, create a NZB and you can still access it 1000-1500 days later.

Haha. :D
 
It is strange. By the same logic we should be able to talk about emulation which is not illegal. E.g. ZX spectrum, for which Amstrad allow the roms to be used legally, and many software companies have made their games copyright free.

Downloading copyright material from usenet isn't illegal either though so...

Anyway, as someone else said it's about the entire system which can be used to download legitimate/non copyright data.
 
The american copyright holder will open a court case against them and request for their extradition, much like the guy in news recently.

Alternatively if they're having to send 10 DMCA requests every hour then they can just take them to court anyway (hence NZBMatrix being closed, it would have been a case of we will petition for your extradition unless you close your website). DMCA requests are essentially a form of good faith between providers of content and copyright holders. We initially have to assume the providers of content aren't wilfully breaking the law.

It's been pretty obvious for the past 5 years that Usenet is getting too popular and easy to use. I mean, programs like sickbeard and couch potato are kind of taking the **** lol.

What happens if the site blocks US connections though? How can companies then try and extradite someone for something that isn't available in the US..
 
Do these TV episodes come with the advertising which pays for them? Of course it's illegal. People have to pay (one way or another) to watch these shows and if they want to see them again they either had to have made a personal recording or wait until they're released on DVD.

With TV licenses and cable contracts there should be systems in place to gain access to this material through legitimate sources, often there is, things such as iPlayer or in the US they have things like Hulu. It's still illegal to get TV from P2P or usenet or ftp etc though but as the public becomes more accepting of watching things on the internet we will see more and more legitimate sources appearing.

For the price of a typical usenet subscriptions you can get netflix. It's what these stupid copyright holders should have done all along, provide a reasonably priced legal service that is better than what you can get illegally. They shouldn't be annoyed by illegal services, they should be embarrassed they don't offer something better.

You looked at netflix recently...? I won't pay to copyright infringe (no usenet) but netflix is one of the best out there in the UK for videos/films yet it is still utter ****. When the production/distribution companies actually allow people to watch their content through legitimate means I think usenet will die a death anyway. Why pay money for something so you can download illegitimate content when you can pay the same and get the same legitimately.
 
What happens if the site blocks US connections though? How can companies then try and extradite someone for something that isn't available in the US..

Because they're still distributing illegal stuff. If I sell you a fake copy of Inception down the pub I can still be sued by Warner Bros or whatever. Essentially it comes down to extraditions and local laws. I wouldn't be extradited for my pub dvd sales because there are sufficient laws in the UK to deal with me. It all comes down to the law being archaic and slow and poorly written compared to the advancement and ingenuity of the internet. It's created quite a mess which is literally threatening the internet as a whole (i.e. censorship).

Seriously? I've never used a nzb site in my life. Supersearch in Newsleecher means there's no need.

Part of the problem and clampdown is because there is an influx of people like him, people that have been spoonfed how to usenet and never had to hunt for his own wild hogs. Until about 4-5 years ago nobody would go near usenet as it was 'too complicated' now a 5 year old can use it and this is why copyright holders have suddenly started to get upset.
 
Part of the problem and clampdown is because there is an influx of people like him, people that have been spoonfed how to usenet and never had to hunt for his own wild hogs. Until about 4-5 years ago nobody would go near usenet as it was 'too complicated' now a 5 year old can use it and this is why copyright holders have suddenly started to get upset.


Totally agree, usenet was here long before the nzb indexing sites and it'll continue for a long time after. All indexing sites did was pull in the torrent crowd which in turn shone a bright light onto the newsgroups which has resulted into whats happening now.
 
Part of the problem and clampdown is because there is an influx of people like him, people that have been spoonfed how to usenet and never had to hunt for his own wild hogs. Until about 4-5 years ago nobody would go near usenet as it was 'too complicated' now a 5 year old can use it
and this is why copyright holders have suddenly started to get upset.

Wild Hogs?! Is newsgroups hunting animals now :rolleyes:
Been with Newsgroups for a fair few years and for most people its about speed and ease of use not everyone's got time to fix incomplete downloads.
Theres a point where something can be done easier and as quick through private torrent sites.

Ill leave you to your wild hogs.
 
Wild Hogs?! Is newsgroups hunting animals now :rolleyes:
Been with Newsgroups for a fair few years and for most people its about speed and ease of use not everyone's got time to fix incomplete downloads.
Theres a point where something can be done easier and as quick through private torrent sites.

Ill leave you to your wild hogs.

Don't get butt hurt, I was simply saying usenet wasn't always as easy as a searchterm and a click.
 
Wild Hogs?! Is newsgroups hunting animals now :rolleyes:
Been with Newsgroups for a fair few years and for most people its about speed and ease of use not everyone's got time to fix incomplete downloads.
Theres a point where something can be done easier and as quick through private torrent sites.

Ill leave you to your wild hogs.

He's speaking metaphorically dude. lol. Where's that thread about internet discussion getting crappier these days. :p

I'm intrigued, Are you talking about usenet incompletes? How do you go about fixing incompletes? It's all automated here. From detection all the way to downloading recovery data and deletion of rars. I don't even have to touch anything. :D
 
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The way to eradicate newsgroups / torrenting / P2P is to compete with it, not legislate against it. The fat cats at the top of the media distribution machine have had it their way for far too long. The whole industry needs slimming down and bringing up to date with existing technology.

I want to be able to pay for my newly released film and to be able to watch it at home at the same time as the cinema goers in HD quality on my HD tv. Why can't I do this? The technology exists, the bandwidth exists so why can't I?

I used to download PC games. Haven't done for years now. Why? Because Steam made it too easy to buy and download games. I see a game I like and I buy it. I don't have to wait until it gets released in my region. I don't have to watch the USA get it 6 months before we do. And once I've bought it it's mine.

The painful truth is that there is currently no reason (for regular home users) other than illegal downloading to have a connection faster than around 20mb. There simply isn't the legal content out there to warrant fast connections.
 
The way to eradicate newsgroups / torrenting / P2P is to compete with it, not legislate against it. The fat cats at the top of the media distribution machine have had it their way for far too long. The whole industry needs slimming down and bringing up to date with existing technology.

I want to be able to pay for my newly released film and to be able to watch it at home at the same time as the cinema goers in HD quality on my HD tv. Why can't I do this? The technology exists, the bandwidth exists so why can't I?

I used to download PC games. Haven't done for years now. Why? Because Steam made it too easy to buy and download games. I see a game I like and I buy it. I don't have to wait until it gets released in my region. I don't have to watch the USA get it 6 months before we do. And once I've bought it it's mine.

The painful truth is that there is currently no reason (for regular home users) other than illegal downloading to have a connection faster than around 20mb. There simply isn't the legal content out there to warrant fast connections.

+1
 
Here's me thinking having 2 sites on the go was a good backup and then within 2 weeks they both go, added to that pain lof/bitscores went down too.

:(:(
 
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