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Anyone suffer from this? Im really starting to think i do :o

I find my self constantly re-arranging things to make them look "neat" and i hate anything being out of place. I find my self doing it all the time at home and at the gfs.

For example in bathroom yesterday, i sorted out the whole shelf to make things neater and inline because it was annoying me.

Signs of OCD or madness :confused:
 
I think it's pretty fair to say that everybody has a mild form of it up to a point. If it starts to ruin your life or that of others, then it does become a problem, until then it's not really all that rare, odd or a problem. It depends on the level of obsessiveness you get to.

You can't actually cure it, you just learn how to live with it.
 
Yeah I always need to go and check my car is locked if its anywhere other than on the drive.

I have been known to run from trainstations to check it when I haven't really got time, and I used to go and check it randomly when at work even though I knew it was locked. :mad:

I think I am conquering it though :)
 
R5Rich said:
For example in bathroom yesterday, i sorted out the whole shelf to make things neater and inline because it was annoying me.
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Would you like to move in? We were thinking of hiring a cleaner but this sounds cheaper

MB
 
My dad does to such an extent that he's on medication.

Such things as..........always being late for work, yet he'll comb his hair exactly 5 times, check his watch, huff, then comb it again 5 times. This goes on for a long time.

He walks around the car 25-35 times after getting out of it checking all the handles to make sure its locked.

He puts his pen in his jacket pocket, takes it out again, puts it back again, etc, etc

And the one that really bugs me........her reads the first sentence of an article or letter about 25 times OUT LOUD!

This OCD has worsened since the death of my brother 10 years ago. Hopefully when my dad retres it will ease off a bit, because I dont think the stress of work is helping either.

And no you cant cure it, but you can control it. It is afterall, just a Chemical Imbalance in the brain!
 
cleanbluesky said:
Says who?

If someone has told you this, understand that the phrase may be ambiguous - it can on face mean anything.
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I had a bit of an arguement on here, not to long ago. I looked it up, because i was under the impression it was self induced, but its not 100% clear. Research says it a lack of serotonin in the brain, which is a key component in running smoothly. In other words lacking in serotonin cause the brain to become fixed on a certain thing and gets caught in a feedback loop.

(i have a friend who took too much Xtc as a kid and it has damaged the level of serotonin in his brain he gets it sometimes, it can be helped by eating bananas, which contain a good source)

However it has also been tested with placebos, and many of the cases are caused by onset of despressions and such other illnesses.
I still am not sure on many cases. I think its the new ages fad to have, and people need to sort themselves out.
 
when i was in boarding school, there was a boy who slept in our dorm for a year, he always wash his hands 20X before he goes to bed, always arrived lessons late etc, affected him lots.

that was 10 years ago, i still see him around sometime, he's now got "hit and run" OCD and got his driving licence revoked by his GP doctor

you cant basically cure an OCD at all. it wont goes away forever, its changes to different sort of OCD etc.
 
cleanbluesky said:
Says who?

If someone has told you this, understand that the phrase may be ambiguous - it can on face mean anything.
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One of the top research professors in the world for the disease!

Prof. Terry Hamblin!

Its not some Lame illness like M.E.
 
I do some weird things, i have to clean my bedroom and make sure everything is organised.

If i am going to do something in a room, i have to clean it all up first to give me the 'ready' status.

If i about to get a bath, i always clean up first, get all my stuff ready then turn on a tap.
 
Oracle said:
One of the top research professors in the world for the disease!

Prof. Terry Hamblin!

Its not some Lame illness like M.E.
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Good for him, a chemical imbalance doesn't mean a thing - if the concept is even valid there is nothing to say wheter it is a cause of a symptom. Bear in mind that your brain will change 'chemical balance' on the basis of different thoughts and stimulus - which is why calling it a chem imbalance means little except verbal fluff...

TBH, if he is taking OCD from a nurological persecptive then he is trying to look for nuerological explanations rather than actually working with people to address the issues - it can be overcome through therapy.

OCD nor ME are lame illnesses.
 
cleanbluesky said:
Where there is a will there is a way. It depends on what causes the OCD. At best it doesn't even require drugs to solve
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I believe it only supresses it but it doesn't cure it.

The problem with modern society at the moment is people are focusing on cure rather than prevention. It's all well and good drugging ther person up to they eyeballs, but I don't see that as a cure more as shifting the problem to the side...
 
cleanbluesky said:
Good for him, a chemical imbalance doesn't mean a thing - if the concept is even valid there is nothing to say wheter it is a cause of a symptom. Bear in mind that your brain will change 'chemical balance' on the basis of different thoughts and stimulus - which is why calling it a chem imbalance means little except verbal fluff...

TBH, if he is taking OCD from a nurological persecptive then he is trying to look for nuerological explanations rather than actually working with people to address the issues - it can be overcome through therapy.

OCD nor ME are lame illnesses.
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I once believed that, i tend to have my own opinion of things untill im proven wrong or research shows otherwise.
Like i said but it seems to gone unnoticed

In the central nervous system, serotonin is believed to play an important role in the regulation of mood, sleep, emesis (vomiting), sexuality and appetite. Serotonin has been thought to play a part in many disorders, notably as part of the biochemistry of depression, migraine, bipolar disorder and anxiety.

A lack of this causes problems between neurons in your brain, and transmission of neurochemicals isnt as effective. So when you want to move on and let yourself continue, you cant and get caught up on one single objective.

ME, im still not sure about myself, but i havent looked into it far enough.

However both these things may exist i believe a very large percentage of people who claim they have it are just looking for accuses in life for things not going there way. Hypocondria

Freefaller said:
I believe it only supresses it but it doesn't cure it.

The problem with modern society at the moment is people are focusing on cure rather than prevention. It's all well and good drugging ther person up to they eyeballs, but I don't see that as a cure more as shifting the problem to the side...
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Serotonin cannot be passed into the brain from the blood stream, however there are natural alternatives that help in the production of it. One being tryptophan, which can be found in many sources.

Tryptophan, found as a component of dietary protein, is particularly plentiful in chocolate, oats, bananas, dried dates, milk, yogurt, cottage cheese, meat, fish, turkey, chicken, sesame and peanuts.
 
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ChroniC said:
I once believed that, i tend to have my own opinion of things untill im proven wrong or research shows otherwise.
Like i said but it seems to gone unnoticed

In the central nervous system, serotonin is believed to play an important role in the regulation of mood, sleep, emesis (vomiting), sexuality and appetite. Serotonin has been thought to play a part in many disorders, notably as part of the biochemistry of depression, migraine, bipolar disorder and anxiety.

A lack of this causes problems between neurons in your brain, and transmission of neurochemicals isnt as effective. So when you want to move on and let yourself continue, you cant and get caught up on one single objective.
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Yes, but the results of increasing seratonin in the brain are unpredictable - such as the effects of the Prozac (SSRI) family of drugs - also, there is nothing to say that the low seratonin is not a symptom rather than a cause...
 
cleanbluesky said:
Yes, but the results of increasing seratonin in the brain are unpredictable - such as the effects of the Prozac (SSRI) family of drugs - also, there is nothing to say that the low seratonin is not a symptom rather than a cause...
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True, but what makes me believe it is the basis of a victim of OCD i know as i said, he has destroyed the levels of serotonin in his brain by over use of Xtc. He now suffers quite badly from it.
I know that no scientific basis to go on, but research points to it and removing a fairly large wack of it from your brain like he did is a fairly good experiment to see if its true.

Someone test the theory. If they suffer badly so they can gauge results then try. Eat an increased amount of bananas and chocolate and see if it subsides.
 
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Well after reading thru it, i could proberly explain the reasoning behind it.

For a few years (when i was bout 17 uptil about 19) I would do quite a lot of drugs going out (namely xtc) so that could proberly account for some of it, if it is actually down to serotonin levels. I did stop for over 18mnths and few weeks back i went out and i gave in :rolleyes: Didnt really effect me tbh, but i always felt the after effects more. So its proberly down to that :(

Although i dont have it quite as bad as some people it does get kinda annoying, some days im fine others i just have to tidy things up :o Suppose its not all that bad being a bit of a cleansing freak :D
 
ChroniC said:
Serotonin cannot be passed into the brain from the blood stream, however there are natural alternatives that help in the production of it. One being tryptophan, which can be found in many sources.

Tryptophan, found as a component of dietary protein, is particularly plentiful in chocolate, oats, bananas, dried dates, milk, yogurt, cottage cheese, meat, fish, turkey, chicken, sesame and peanuts.
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So it's a lifestyle choice and it's down to the person to live a healthier lifestyle? So people can render themselves more or less susceptible to it I guess. Which is why I guess so much investment has gone into primary mental health care in the NHS now. I guess if the parts of the brain stop producing serotonin point blank you're in trouble and then it's a question of drugs?
 
i have ocd - its only ever been mild to moderate at most tho. at one point i was having counseling about it as i had a string of things that would "cripple" me every evening:
every night i would check all the outside doors and windows were locked, make sure all the lights and plugs were off, the taps were off, and the fridge was closed etc...
on there own i doesn't sound too bad, but i would have to check and recheck each thing loads and loads of times. i would keep walking away and then coming back to check things were closed/off again and again. it got to the point when this routine would take an hour or so every night.

in the end i realised (with some help) that letting it continue was just making it worse and worse. through various practical things i was able to sort most of the stuff out but still see it come out with some things - car doors for example. i always check and recheck my doors and locked before i leave my car. sometimes still feel like i have to go back to check after i've left.

anyways, as was said before, a lot of people have it to some extent or another. its just a case of not letting it get a foot-hold in your life from which it can get worse.
 
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