Poll: [OcUK] Clan?

[Darkwave]

for a clan to work it has to be dedicated yes but above all fun for its members

I have been in a couple of clans before, and I agree with you that fun is the ultimate keyword, above all else, even above winning.

Malc makes it sound like a clan should be more like a job, **** that. No offense.

Dude, How can you be counted in or out when Nothing has been decided
You are just looking for an argument aren't you.

No, I am just expressing my interest or disinterest in this project, the same way you are. I was interested, up until you came along and made it sound like I'd be more relaxed at work than in this clan.

If it is to be run how you plan, then it's not for me, simple as. What else can I do but count myself out? It's better than signing up anyway then kicking up a stink about it, right?

 

[afraser2k]

I always assumed that we could use the [OcUK] tag in any game to represent forum membership and I'd like to see that continue, well, since the original CS 1.6 clan went inactive anyway.

However, the problems will appear once it starts becoming more official for forum members using it if we have any imature gamers who cause problems for server admins who then come here expecting complaints to be resolved and they then go to the shop with the complaint. I think this happened when I used to play on the UKCS CS:S servers and a complaint against another clan using OcUK name (not tocuk) at the time.

Maybe a sub-forum where we can arrange games between each other/other clans would be more suitable so that it wouldn't spam these forums?

Is this just PC Games or would it include console gamers like those with Xbox Live service?

 

[4T5]

eekfek.
I take onboard what you say mate but i am Not trying to form a clan.
I merely stated the conditions i would.
I wouldn't bother otherwise as i have seen too many clans in the past dissolve.
I would Not put the effort in that's needed unless i had a number of people around me that felt the same way.
Casual gamers are no good for clan, they don't play enouth are not skilled enouth and move onto the next title as soon as one is released that catches there fancy.
Clans need dedicated players who put the hours in and understand the order of command and how to effectively use it.

I am not trying to hijack the thread i am just sayiing what i think.
Most here are casual gamers and a casual gamers team/clan would be the fun option.
People have posted hints for me to form a BF2 clan and i am just saying how it would be if i did. Odviously the last thing i want to do is commit to the hours it takes to set it up.
The only way i would is if there was say a dozen others like me who thought the same as me.

I am definetly Not trying to persuade casual gamers to agree with me or to join me.
You do what you want, i will do what i want but unless i state what i want knowone knows.

 

[4T5]

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If it is to be run how you plan, then it's not for me, simple as. What else can I do but count myself out? It's better than signing up anyway then kicking up a stink about it, right?

It is You that is getting ahead of himself.
Who said i will be running anything
Jeez i post my thoughts and you have kids crying all over the place

 

[eekfek]

a good clan needs good leadership, and good members agreed.
i gave up running a competitive clan yrs ago but enjoy my 'casual gaming' .
ive still got the irc channel open with around 10-15 m8s from the diff clans ive been involved with.
we usually join vent around 10pm after are kids are in bed or the mrs is asleep then game for a few hrs .
i do miss the pre-match nerves before every ladder match, the screaming of members laying the blame for defeat at each others feet etc etc.

casual gamers shouldnt be scorned upon, they usually have the skill needed but just need the final element of teamwork.

yewen, yhack put a lot of work into the last attempt of a bf2 clan and unfortunately it never got to the final stages despite all of their hard work.

recruiting from just OcUK forums might have been part of the problem as like malc30 has stated it does need dedication, something maybe most here are not (yet)

 

[eekfek]

It is You that is getting ahead of himself.
Who said i will be running anything
Jeez i post my thoughts and you have kids crying all over the place

hey, im not that far off your ripe old age ;p

 

[4T5]

eekfek.
You make very good points mate and are far better at putting them over than me
I do Not cast Scorn on casual gamers and if it looks like that i apologise.
I just feel there is a massive difference between casual gamers and clan/league gamers. This is down to hours put in and dedicated involvement.
I realise this thread is for the casuals but as my name has been mentioned/hinted in the past i just wanted people here to know my thoughts.

Others should not be put off by my style and should just voice there own preferences without using insults or the rolleyes.
After all this is a discussion board to sort out how you all would like it not for someone to dictate how it will be.

Like i said earlier i only posted how i would do it. Take that for what you will.

 

[eekfek]

cheers malc30
i just didnt want peeps put off applying and i dont want to hijack or derail the OP thread.

so how far has this got?

Clan name ?
Games of choice ?

 

[Yewen]

malc30 has a very good point though guys.

The BF2 group died a death as bar about eight people nobody was reliable enough to show up for the team games everytime they said they would, with months notice.

I would LOVE to be in a good skilled BF2 clan, where people play a couple of times a week as a squad made up of clan members. Would be awsome.

If its a casual gaming group you will get that on rare occassions, like malc does I do take BF2 very seriously (until 1.3) and love the game, but it needs as do most 'competative team' fps games a fairly regular playbase to keep a clan alive.

He has a point completely about how a clan would die.

If you notice I have been reffering to the tag as a gaming group, just used to identify people. Anything more would present problems by the fact that most people play the game that is flavour of the month.

The words casual and clan very rarely work, unless you have 100's of members per game.

 

[4T5]

You lot are so much more eloquent (sp?) than me


Perhaps an initial Fun casual clan could be formed using the OcUk tag to identify each other ingame.
Then out of that the individual Hardcore Clans could be formed.

I took it for granted that everyone knew about the last attempt and failure, My mistake.

 

[Darkwave]

You have a good idea there malc. Do the OcUK clan thing composed of both casual n00bs like me and hardcore nutters like you, and have a specialist hardcore gestapo squad if anyone wants to do proper matches and training etc.

Just think, all us casual n00bs would be good target practise for you when training.

 

[4T5]

Woooohooooooo.
We are getting somewhere
I must say that casual or noob players are no easier to kill than seasoned players.
The distinction i make between the two is purely on Hours played and other involvement.
i.e praccy, map sortes, tactic meets and other boring clan stuff.
Casuals like to drop in and out of a game where as clan players like to spend time working on tactics etc.
This is the only difference in my mind and i in No way look down on Noobs or casual players.
After all it's noobs that will keep my game alive.

Please forgive my mixxed up writing style which has come over so aggressive, this was Not my intention.

 

[Noble-Kebab]

except the nutters can headshot you from anywhere

go [OcUK]

 

[Darkwave]

Please forgive my mixxed up writing style which has come over so aggressive, this was Not my intention.

Don't worry mate, I am guilty as charged of the same thing.

Us casual players could also be subs in the event of one of the hard-cores not showing up for a match or something.

 

[Yewen]

Don't worry mate, I am guilty as charged of the same thing.

Us casual players could also be subs in the event of one of the hard-cores not showing up for a match or something.

The way the old clan worked in BF2 was basically, the hardcore people who played together a lot were squad leaders and then with them were casual players on the basis of follow about.

On the first game we played with casual v TS equipped seasoned on BF2, malc will remember the joys of one side going around in convoys with air cover, well balanced squads.

The other was a side of lone wolfs not playing together, was a slaughter to say the least.

The hardcore games we organise the casual players have to play as a team, or the other side (or the one with more hardcore gestapo in) will win just by teamwork, not necissarily skill.

Getting the balance right will be tricky.

Just going to mention it again, you cant by the forum rules use the popularity of OcUK to build your own community, so whoever organises this will have to be very careful on what they can and can not do.

 

[Zacko]

I like the idea of having one group which then split up into smaller groups if a match is organised (As some have said) in my old CoD clan that seemed to work well, people had fun and if they wanted to they could tag along with some of the veterans to play a match. What was good is that occasionally we'd have a 10v10 match or something and then you would get a good mix of the casual gamers and the hardcore.

As I said, I'm more than happy to host a forum/website for this, I'd just create it then admin whoever wants to be an overall leader or something. But as Yewen said we'd have to be careful about how we do this.

My ideas

 

[4T5]

Here's an idea, just an idea mind don't shoot the messenger

How about we get a teamspeak server set up.
Lobby = Everyone chatting and shooting the breeze sorting games out etc.
BF2fun room = wysiwyg
BF2 match room = wysiwyg
CSSroom = wysiwyg
Other games rooms
etc
etc etc

We could use the lobby as a general meeting pplace for gamers to shoot the breeze and then have lots of different rooms set up how you all want.
Then from there poeple will Naturally fall into what suits them.

This would have the added bonus of keeping spam of the boards and bringing our whole community here closer.

 

[Darkwave]

Sounds good to me.

 

[Foehammer2003]

You have a good idea there malc. Do the OcUK clan thing composed of both casual n00bs like me and hardcore nutters like you, and have a specialist hardcore gestapo squad if anyone wants to do proper matches and training etc.

Just think, all us casual n00bs would be good target practise for you when training.

Could you seperate the tags with the two groups? perhaps {OcUK} for fun gamers and {OcUK+} For the hardcore? Just an idea, or is there no need?

 

[Darkwave]

Could you seperate the tags with the two groups? perhaps {OcUK} for fun gamers and {OcUK+} For the hardcore? Just an idea, or is there no need?

It's not even remotely up to me, I am just interested in joining if it takes off.

Good idea though IMO.