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OcUK RTX4000 series review thread

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So, they've gone all out TSMC 4nm with this and their 608mm².

What is TSMC's next node? A 3nm one or a 2nm one?

If Nvidia are having a hissy about 4nm prices, what will they say (and charge) for a > 600mm² 2nm GPU?

And having gone monster, what will they do for their next ~18 month update design?

Unless their next design gains massivley in perf/transistors then chiplets seems to be their only options.
It's actually a TSMC 5nm node called 4n.
 
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Very interesting to see der8auer demonstrate that you can limit the cards power draw and still achieve 90-100% of the same performance for 20-30% less power draw. Why wasn’t it setup like that out of the box!
 
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The poor 4090 is CPU bottlenecked in so many games

At 1080p you'd be nuts to buy the 4090

At 1440p you'd best be planning to upgrade to a better CPU

At 4k, you probably still want a better CPU but it's ok for now


Spider-Man is a good example of this, the 4090 gets 190fps in that game at 1080p, 1440p and 4k
 
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10% performance is a lot when you want to market the hell out of things!

True, but that’s in benchmarking, in gaming it was more like 5%. Wouldn’t it have been even more impressive to be 90-100% of the current performance but with a tdp of 300w. That would have been amazing.
 
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This a pure 4K gpu. Fantastic for those who can afford a 144Hz 4K monitor + 4090 but for most people this is way overkill. My 1440P 165Hz monitor would be the bottleneck so I guess i'll wait a few years before upgrading to 4k and this level of gpu.
Even 144Hz restricts it, just a shame the 240Hz G8 is ****e!!
 
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Very interesting to see der8auer demonstrate that you can limit the cards power draw and still achieve 90-100% of the same performance for 20-30% less power draw. Why wasn’t it setup like that out of the box!

After watching a few reviews, I suspect that it's a bit of derbauer playing himself again like he did with this 7950x offset mount video.

I believe Nvidia when they say its a 450w GPU, and from other reviews the 4090 averages about 360w-380w in a wide range of games at 4k. So its easy to then reduce your power limit by 20% and lose 0% performance because games were not asking for more than 360w/380w to begin with.
 
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People who live at home with their parents ? :)

In London price of a 4090 is only a months rent in some places.

I thought my parents were generous letting me get away with £200pm rent 12 years ago before I bought my own place. £150pm you’re laughing :p

Anyway yeah the point was I quoted someone who compared the 4090 to peoples annual rent, which was a little peculiar to say but oh well. :D
 
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Good review from Anthony on LTT channel but the lack of DP 2.0 is a real eye opener. He made a remark that suggested these cards have been avaiable for a while and have been sitting around in warehouse for sometime which might explain the lack of DP 2.0 support.
 
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This a pure 4K gpu. Fantastic for those who can afford a 144Hz 4K monitor + 4090 but for most people this is way overkill. My 1440P 165Hz monitor would be the bottleneck so I guess i'll wait a few years before upgrading to 4k and this level of gpu.
Pretty much why all of a sudden, I'm tempted. The 4K performance is just something else and I currently have a 4k 144hz monitor.
 
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You absolutely need a 4k or 8k monitor for this thing. There just doesn't exist a CPU fast enough to drive it at lower resolutions and neither Zen 4 or Raptor Lake are fast enough


Nvidia needs to sort out its overhead, it's getting ridiculous now, if they don't RTX5000 is gonna need DLSS 4.0 and DLSS 4.0 is gonna generate 100% of all frames completely bypassing the CPU
 
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