OCUK systems question.

Juggati · 12 Mar 2013 at 20:19

My first post and its probably the same one 99% of people do when they join.

Firstly, hello.

I am looking to get a new computer for gaming.

The games I am trying to play are BF3 ARMA2 and 3 when it arrives and dayZ as well as war thunder and World of tanks online, EVE sometimes and Planetside 2 as well.

I would like to purchase one of the systems over clockers sell because I can buy them on finance, as I am below the national the poverty line, but not sure what I am looking at so need some advice to point me to the right one.

Max budget £800.

I would like an OS probs windows 7 as I hear 8 isnt that great, dont worry about the keyboard or mouse as I have one.
Edited all the chatty stuff out.

mickyflinn · 12 Mar 2013 at 20:25

Just to clarify , will u need an operating system , monitor , etc and will u be building it yourself ?

Juggati · 12 Mar 2013 at 20:36

Fast reply, erm probably need a new monitor and operating system as I refuse to use my vista again....EVER!!
I was looking at the bundles they have for sale here ready made as I would probably void my house insurance if I built it.
So i will assume I would need the whole thing, and just use the old as spares.

mickyflinn · 12 Mar 2013 at 20:56

Bundles are for people who will build there own system, so you will need a built system .

A monitor and operating system will cost you approx £180 leaving you £620

Juggati · 12 Mar 2013 at 21:04

I will try amend the thread title to system, told you I didnt know anything.
Could someone edit my thread title please to say systems and not bundles? Many thanks.

zakblood · 12 Mar 2013 at 21:21

1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £199.99
1 x **B Grade** Gigabyte ATI Radeon HD 7850 OC Windforce 2X 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card w/ Nexuiz, Sleeping Dogs & Dirt Showd (GX-100-GI) £129.95
1 x BenQ GL2450E 24" Widescreen LED Monitor - Black £119.99
1 x Asus P8Z77-V LX2 Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £82.99
1 x Toshiba (7K1000.D) 1TB SATA 6GB/s 32MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA100) HDD £59.99
1 x Corsair Builder Series CX 500w Modular '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply (CP-9020059-UK) £54.98
1 x Windows 8 Pro Upgrade Edition - from XP SP3 / Vista / Windows 7 £44.99
1 x Corsair Vengeance Low Profile 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CML8GX3M2A1600C9) £41.99
1 x BitFenix Outlaw Gaming Case - Black £39.95
1 x OcUK 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £16.99
Total : £808.31 (includes shipping : £13.75).

add a better fan and heatsink at a later date and you can overclock it like crazy

then when money gets better add a better video card, you will need to use your vista serial number for the upgrade version, but again it saves a few bob

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18046396

build guide, easy to follow and worth the effort, but i see you need it built for you, so if so just forget my post

Juggati · 12 Mar 2013 at 21:33

I edited my original post as I think I may have muddied the waters.
Ah I see you edited yours, thanks for that, I would like it pre built as the last thing I built with electrics was a zoid in 1986 and that was a wind up toy.

mickyflinn · 12 Mar 2013 at 21:37

YOUR BASKET
1 x "AMD FX-8 Lightning" AMD FX-8 8320 3.50GHz DDR3 Eight Core System ** PLAY ME INSTORE NOW ** £649.99
1 x 24 MONTH WARRANTY - COLLECT & RETURN £0.01
1 x Standard Build Systems - Approximately 5-7 working days £0
Total : £668.00 (includes shipping : £15.00).

or

YOUR BASKET
1 x "Vortex i3" Intel Core i3 3220 3.30GHz DDR3 Dual Core Gaming PC £524.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-Bit - OEM (GFC-02050) £79.99
1 x Standard Build Systems - Approximately 5-7 working days £0
1 x 24 MONTH WARRANTY - COLLECT & RETURN £0.01
Total : £623.59 (includes shipping : £15.50).

NathWraith · 13 Mar 2013 at 10:11

A titan Krypt Pro system with Windows & HP and a HD 7870 comes in at £774.96 inc VAT and will have no problem dealing with the above games.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-217-OE&groupid=43&catid=2475&subcat=2485

I would personally spend a bi more on kitting it out with an SSD like the Samsung 840 series 120GB and maybe spending an extra £50 to get the HD 7950 graphics card

Juggati · 13 Mar 2013 at 20:54

Many thanks for the replies, I will be looking to buy very soon and thanks for the advice Nath, looks like yours is the one I will probably get with those tweaks you recommend!

NathWraith · 14 Mar 2013 at 10:01

Juggati said:
Many thanks for the replies, I will be looking to buy very soon and thanks for the advice Nath, looks like yours is the one I will probably get with those tweaks you recommend!

No problems bud. If you need any more help just post up!

Bacon? · 14 Mar 2013 at 11:13

I could not reccomend any PC with a Bulldozer chip in it.

The two ones Micky listed are much better for the price

NathWraith · 14 Mar 2013 at 11:16

Bacon? said:
I could not reccomend any PC with a Bulldozer chip in it.

The two ones Micky listed are much better for the price

I disagree, the FX-4100 and FX-4170 are great CPUs and don't cost the world either.

Intel will always be king for higher end set ups but I woulnd't discount AMD all together, after all budget is what leads you to your sepc in the end.

Bacon? · 14 Mar 2013 at 11:26

But for gaming they are not great CPU's. The FX-4100 is beaten by the Ivy i3 in most applications and games.

Also with a 7850 added and an OS it costs £750 for the FX.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-247-OE&groupid=43&catid=2475

Add the same on that build and it is only an extra £50.

NathWraith · 14 Mar 2013 at 12:09

Bacon? said:
But for gaming they are not great CPU's. The FX-4100 is beaten by the Ivy i3 in most applications and games.

Also with a 7850 added and an OS it costs £750 for the FX.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-247-OE&groupid=43&catid=2475

Add the same on that build and it is only an extra £50.

You are comparing the eight core lighnting system to the quad core i5 system though. Obviously they aren't competitors as you either want eight or four cores and prospective buyers won't be placing them in the same ball park.

The uniqueness of the eight core system is that you cannot get another eight core platform for anywhere near that price point.

A 4170/4300 system would be my choice and would work out a far bit cheaper than the i5 if I was on a budget. As an overall choice though the i5 is king.

Bacon? · 14 Mar 2013 at 12:28

No I am comparing the FX-4100 to the i5 set up. Price wise there isnt much between them. Peformance wise there is a huge difference. If I was going down a budget route I would pick an Ivy i3 or an FX-6300. A Bulldozer chip would never enter the equation and I know most of this forum would agree.

Intel spec £800. Has everything needed

YOUR BASKET
1 x "Titan 8700i Pulse" Intel Core i5 3570K 3.40GHz @ 4.40GHz DDR3 Ivybridge Gaming PC £467.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (ST500DM002) HDD £43.99
1 x HIS HD 7850 IceQ X 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (H785QN2G2M) with Tomb Raider & Bioshock PC Games £161.99
1 x No Hard Drive Upgrade £0
1 x Standard Build Systems - Approximately 5-7 working days £0
1 x 24 MONTH WARRANTY - COLLECT & RETURN £0.01
1 x Xigmatek Alfar Midi Tower Case - Black/White £44.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-Bit - OEM (GFC-02050) £79.99
Total : £818.46 (includes shipping : £16.25).

AMD spec with your "budget" FX-4300

YOUR BASKET
1 x "Titan 8200a Krypt PRO" AMD Bulldozer FX-4 4300 3.80GHz DDR3 Quad Core System £359.99
1 x Standard Build Systems - Approximately 5-7 working days £0
1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-Bit - OEM (GFC-02050) £79.99
1 x 24 MONTH WARRANTY - COLLECT & RETURN £0.01
1 x Corsair Carbide 300R Mid Tower Case - Black £64.99
1 x No Hard Drive Upgrade £0
1 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST2000DM001) HDD £79.99
1 x HIS HD 7850 IceQ X 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (H785QN2G2M) with Tomb Raider & Bioshock PC Games £161.99
Total : £767.96 (includes shipping : £17.50).

NathWraith · 14 Mar 2013 at 13:16

Ah I see, not entirely comparable as the case with the Krypt PRO is considerably more expensive than the one with the Pulse system.

The krypt PRO has a 2TB drive in comparison to a 500GB, it also has 16GB of memory versus 8GB in the pulse.

So change them all to identical components and you will see a larger gap form.

Bacon? · 14 Mar 2013 at 13:38

If you call considerably more expensive £20. Plus for a gaming build RAM over 8GB will make little difference and you can buy HDD's cheap enough is storage is of great concern.

For a gaming build its the GPU and the CPU which is most important and the 4300 is the weakest of the 4 builds mentioned in that regard.

Juggati · 15 Mar 2013 at 15:33

Thanks for the discussion, Although I could not follow parts of it I take it the titan is the one that would be most suited for my needs.

Will look into it and make a decision than.

Bacon? · 15 Mar 2013 at 16:16

Which Titan? The i5 or the FX one?
The i5 (as discussed before) is a good one if you can afford it.

The FX build might be wrong in its description, while the "4300" is a Piledriver chip and not so bad for a budget build. The chip mentioned is a "Bulldozer" chip, like a 4100 which most people her wouldnt touch with a bargepole