OCZ Vertex SSD "Defrag"

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Heyas all, have had my Vertex 30GB a few weeks now, and wasn't sure if it would benefit from a "defrag" now that its all installed and setup, read tests in HDtune have gone down from about 220mb/sec, to 180ish, and just wasn't sure if there are any defrag-esque tools that would work with this drive?

From what I can grab from HD tune the drive has Firmware 1370.

Thanks :)
 
As I said, I wouldn't defrag it, I'm wondering if there is anything of the equivalent of a defrag that would work and/or be made for a SSD drive. :)

I might be not fully clued up on SSD maintinence, but I'm not silly enough to go defragging it! :D
 
Firmware 1370 is the version otherwise called v1.10 - and it supports TRIM, so you could always get the Wiper.exe tool from the OCZ Forums and run it to restore performance. Beware though that there is a small risk of losing your data running the Wiper tool, so it's advisable to backup first!
 
Cheers Faceplants, thats the one, I knew I had heard of something like that before but couldn't put my finger on it! :)

C drive is always Acronis'd every 3 days and was done last night, might give wiper a try, no chance of drive corruption is there, just a possibility I might need to restore the image?

Cheers :)
 
No worries, and yes there's a slim chance that the Wiper tool might damage data so requiring a restore - had to do mine the other day due to a prog corruption on Win7... restore from Acronis image had me back up and running in about 10-15mins! Can't really ask for much better than that eh?! :)
 
Disadvantages of SSD

Hi all

I intend to buy one of these drives this weekend and I was not aware that you should not defrag an ssd drive. Are there any other disadvantages I should be aware of before buying an SSD drive ?

Thanks,
Michael
 
sony144 said:
Hi all

I intend to buy one of these drives this weekend and I was not aware that you should not defrag an ssd drive. Are there any other disadvantages I should be aware of before buying an SSD drive ?

Thanks,
Michael
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It's an advantage, as they don't need defragging.

The big disadvantage if that they have a limited amount of write cycles.
 
Thanks Mike. I will bear this in mind regarding write cycles. Dont suppose any of you have any idea when Overclockers predict they will be getting more stock of the OCZ Vertex 120GB drives ?
 
5er driver said:
To extend SSD life disable:

Superfetch (or Prefetch for XP)
Indexing

System Restore

Windows Search
Page File
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Is all that really necessary?

Asking as I would like an SSD, but I'm not going to get one if you have to turn off useful features like indexing and Superfetch to stop it from dying. I suppose indexing can be disabled on a per-drive basis, but Superfetch can't.
 
Superfetching/indexing is pointless on SSD as the access times are so quick. Reading lots of small files is what HDDs fail at, thus superfetch/indexing was born to help keep speeds manageable. They're not needed with an SSD, never mind longevity.

System Restore I don't like anyway because the last few times I tried to use it it kept failing - big waste of time IMO. If you want to be able to restore your system to a pre-virus or bootable or whatever state, make an image of your C: every week, or whatever. Safer, quicker and more effective than attempting to use System Restore.

Windows Search comes into the same category as Indexing.

Page file is mostly reads according to Microsoft. Sure, it'll increase longevity to move it off-drive, but noticeable in real-world? Doubtful. By the time it ever stops being able to write, SSDs will have moved on so far, the drive will be obselete. Up to you if you want to move the page file off; personally I'd probably leave it on the SSD. Others will disagree.
 
miniyazz said:
Superfetching/indexing is pointless on SSD as the access times are so quick. Reading lots of small files is what HDDs fail at, thus superfetch/indexing was born to help keep speeds manageable. They're not needed with an SSD, never mind longevity.
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Yep. But if I got an SSD, I'd just put the OS on it and nothing else. If I turn superfetch off I have to turn it off universally, so I'd lose the benefit of it on my mechanical drives.
 
Why get an SSD just for the OS? Surely the main part of getting one is for super-fast program-loading times. If you can't afford a big enough one to fit the OS and programs on, then get an older generation one like the Corsair S128 (around £170) or maybe, depending on reviews, a Kingston SSDNow one.
 
miniyazz said:
Why get an SSD just for the OS? Surely the main part of getting one is for super-fast program-loading times.
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Right, you want OS + programs, applications, games on an SSD. Data like pictures, music, video, documents, etc. can sit passivly on an HDD. IMO SSDs are still too pricy to use for storage.
 
FaceplantSi said:
No worries, and yes there's a slim chance that the Wiper tool might damage data so requiring a restore - had to do mine the other day due to a prog corruption on Win7... restore from Acronis image had me back up and running in about 10-15mins! Can't really ask for much better than that eh?! :)
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Hi FaceplantSi
I am running virtually the same rig as you, just upgraded to 2x30gb vertex's (monday) when running the vertex's in raid 0, acronis and paragon drive backup similar product, when I boot from recovery media to do a restore, both of them fail to report the vertex's in a raid set and displays them as individual drives, never had this problem with any of my regular HDD's raids

So I was wondering what firmware versions you are running on your MB and vertex's and version of acronis you use? or is there another obvious mistake I am making :)

All help welcome
Thanks
 
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