Offered E-On apprenticeship

What qualifications do you get at the end because imo 1 year sounds far too short for an apprenticeship. There is no way they can train you to nvq level 3 in installation and repair in one year.

Are you capable of going to a domestic property and installing a central heating system on your own from scratch.

I did 2 level 3's and a level 2 as well as the ACS training in a year. And yes, I can go in to a domestic property and completely rip out the old system and install a new one from scratch, on my own, in under 3 days.
 
do it. once youve got the NVQ level 3 and are corgi registered you can earn silly money working for contractors

theyre desperate for people with those qualifications up here atleast
 
I would consider being a leccy, plumber or gas person if I didn't already have a job, if you can manage on 13k for a few years I am sure it will pay off.

Although what happens when gas runs out. we might all be usiing electric soon.:)
 
Take it! Why would you bother asking us, drop the shabby office life for the life of a gas engineer! Id drop my apprenticeship as a Mechanical engineer for that. EASILLY!

You need to use your own head as its your life, your asking us to make a decision on your lfie! We really cant do that dude.

Take the job, its well worth it, my mates dad is making around 1800 proffit from 5 days work this week owning his own company, you cant beat that kind of money, its the kind of money that makes your financial life secure, aslong as you manage it properly.

Dude take the job. I know i would.
 
Id still do it The One, i own a heating company, its hard to get corgi registered heating engineers, they really are like gold dust, you can always move after training.

I currently have two young aprentices at the moment, one starting third year, one about to start first year, im a private company though, the wages we have to pay them is nuts, £5.40 per hour first year, £7.60 second year, and my young lad going into third year, £9.60 an hour!
 
Spoke to my dad today, and he basically said an E-On apprenticeship is one of the best things you can do, and they are the best apprenticeships you can do.

Also he said that because E-on is such a large company, if your willing to put in the work, there is a good possibility of a promotion.

My dad started out fitting meters for what was the MEB when he was about my age, and he's now an Area Faults Manager.
 
I'd jump at the chance even just to get CORGI registered, the world is yours then, get yourself your own business and reap the rewards, worth 3 years of living at home? Hell yes, i'd do it myself but i fear i'm too old now :( (31)

Last week I was talking to 2 blokes at the computer fair who have now given up on gas and concentrating on plumbing.
They reckon the cost of keeping up with CORGI registrations and how the goalposts keep moving is not worth it.
If you work for a company its different apparently eg
CORGI reg is £200 but on your own £600 (about).
They were also ordered to do a monoxide course and then buy the equipment.

Also in typical fashion of the authorities is the way they are cracking down on cowboys.
They actually go after the registered gas men to see if all their paperwork is up to date but completely avoid Joe Cowboy Gas Ltd.
 
Last week I was talking to 2 blokes at the computer fair who have now given up on gas and concentrating on plumbing.
They reckon the cost of keeping up with CORGI registrations and how the goalposts keep moving is not worth it.
If you work for a company its different apparently eg
CORGI reg is £200 but on your own £600 (about).
They were also ordered to do a monoxide course and then buy the equipment.

Also in typical fashion of the authorities is the way they are cracking down on cowboys.
They actually go after the registered gas men to see if all their paperwork is up to date but completely avoid Joe Cowboy Gas Ltd.

by joining Corgi you are putting yourself up for prosecution if something goes wrong wheras stated above without being Corgi reg'd you are scot free to do as you wish

also Corgi are not a prosecuting body they collect the evidencence then pass it on to the HSE who then prosecute
 
What qualifications do you get at the end because imo 1 year sounds far too short for an apprenticeship. There is no way they can train you to nvq level 3 in installation and repair in one year.

Are you capable of going to a domestic property and installing a central heating system on your own from scratch?

If the answer is no then the training is nothing like e-ons


As far as im aware from what ive been told and experienced.

Scenario............

You have a new boiler fitted by british gas and 3 months down the line you have problems with it.......

British gas send a repair engineer to come fix the boiler


E-on fit a boiler for you, 3 months down the line it breaks down. E-on send the original engineer to fix the boiler.

Thats the difference as far as im led to believe?
Yes, I've already finished all of the NVQ papers, all of the books and paperwork and gained 21 weeks of experience with an engineer (will be 24 by the end, the minimum for the NVQ is 12 weeks I believe).

I could do it, yes. Installation really isn't that hard, it's more about getting your speed up as you gain experience. I would be very slow at it as I am now (but I'm not even out of my apprenticeship yet!).

Why would the engineer who fitted it come back to repair it? He/she will be fitting another boiler and will leave the fault finding to an engineer who is quicker/more experienced at it. With as many customers as BG has, it wouldn't make financial sense either.

£9k a year would be hell for me, I find it tough on £13.5k and this is only for one year too, not three! It might be worth it in the end, but you will have to be careful with your money.

I get my first pay rise (+£5k PA) the week after my ACS is passed. The second will be based on my performance, but probably within the next 6 months (another £+5k). The final +£5k is based on getting to the same work load as a more experienced engineer, but it means I won't be doing any "on call" work until I'm at that level, thank god.
 
You'll be on full engineer wage within 6 months, all the guys in my group were ;)
That's what everyone keeps telling me :( . The money should be good, I'm just not looking forward to G.A. at Christmas!

Stories of people going to an "uncontrolled water leak" at 2am and it being a dripping PRV for example... :eek: :mad:
 
Right i spoke to one of the managers today and it turns out there are some errors in the contract.

The admin people sending out the information have filled in the pro forma for E-0ns long running generation apprenticeship which is indeed 3 years.:rolleyes:

However..........


The gas and heating apprenticeship is 2 years working towards NVQ Level 3 (6012) and becoming corgi registered.

You should qualify after a year and then you "buddy" up with an existing engineer for a year to gain valuable experience before finally going it alone.

E-on in my area currently have 4 main contracts (Repairs, Domestic installations, Housing associations and with the recent aquasition of the CHN Group they also have all the council contracts) You spend your time working for each to get a broad experience.

At the end of the 2 years you are streamed into on of the 4 areas according to your performance and the business needs.
 
Right i spoke to one of the managers today and it turns out there are some errors in the contract.

The admin people sending out the information have filled in the pro forma for E-0ns long running generation apprenticeship which is indeed 3 years.:rolleyes:

However..........


The gas and heating apprenticeship is 2 years working towards NVQ Level 3 (6012) and becoming corgi registered.

You should qualify after a year and then you "buddy" up with an existing engineer for a year to gain valuable experience before finally going it alone.

E-on in my area currently have 4 main contracts (Repairs, Domestic installations, Housing associations and with the recent aquasition of the CHN Group they also have all the council contracts) You spend your time working for each to get a broad experience.

At the end of the 2 years you are streamed into on of the 4 areas according to your performance and the business needs.
That sounds more like the one I'm doing with BG, the exact same NVQ too. I'm supposed to have my second year easing me into it, but chances are I'll be on the full amount of work (and wage) within 6 months due to how busy it is!

I'd say take the job, even if you are a competitor :p .
 
How did you find the NVQ course itself?

Is it mainly evidence gathering from work or is there much work you need to do at home etc?
 
How did you find the NVQ course itself?

Is it mainly evidence gathering from work or is there much work you need to do at home etc?

You could do it blindfolded. You need a folder of evidence from on the job work but it's all stuff you do every day anyways. You also need a project to design a heating system. Grab a few PTS brochures and slap 'em in there, job done :p
 
Sorry for the questions but what sort of starting salary are you looking at for a newly qualified gs installation engineer with british gas or E-on??
 
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