Offered new role dilemma of travel time vs wage increase

D.P. said:
And as above, having a higher salary to start the negotiations if you do decide to leave always helps. Accepting a counter offer doesn't force you to stay, just might help while you continue searching
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I think this is frequently overlooked. Recruiters love spamming the stats about how 137% of people accepting counter-offers leave within 6/12 months but even if that's the case it doesn't necessarily make it the wrong decision. If someone takes a counter-offer then presumably they are getting more money to match whatever the offer from another company was, which means if they then left that job they are probably getting even more money above and beyond the counter-offer salary, so a double pay rise in effect.

E.g. someone is on £20k at company A, they feel undervalued and get an offer of £25k from company B. They take a counter offer of £25k from company A. Then six months later they are still unhappy and hunt around for a new job, obviously they want more money to leave and hence take an offer of £28k from company C. So they are ahead salary wise of where they would be if they just took the £25k from company B. Obviously this is a made up example, maybe this £28k offer never materialises, but if they do end up leaving company A it seems unlikely they'd be leaving for less than £25k. Basically the counter-offer buys you more time to find the genuinely good salary rather than just whatever the first thing that comes along paying more than where you are now.

I turned down a counter-offer this month and have never accepted one, but I would never dismiss it out of hand and would probably have taken one in the past if it was a good enough offer.
 
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MikeTimbers said:
even then. If the only way you can get a payrise is to threaten to quit then your position in the company is weakened not strengthened. You are now a troublemaker, who undermined the pay system, who made the company realise they are dependent on the worker rather than the other way round. And the next year, you're unlikely to get any rise at all as the company thinks you got too much already.
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What a load of rubbish.
 
HangTime said:
I think this is frequently overlooked. Recruiters love spamming the stats about how 137% of people accepting counter-offers leave within 6/12 months but even if that's the case it doesn't necessarily make it the wrong decision. If someone takes a counter-offer then presumably they are getting more money to match whatever the offer from another company was, which means if they then left that job they are probably getting even more money above and beyond the counter-offer salary, so a double pay rise in effect.

E.g. someone is on £20k at company A, they feel undervalued and get an offer of £25k from company B. They take a counter offer of £25k from company A. Then six months later they are still unhappy and hunt around for a new job, obviously they want more money to leave and hence take an offer of £28k from company C. So they are ahead salary wise of where they would be if they just took the £25k from company B. Obviously this is a made up example, maybe this £28k offer never materialises, but if they do end up leaving company A it seems unlikely they'd be leaving for less than £25k. Basically the counter-offer buys you more time to find the genuinely good salary rather than just whatever the first thing that comes along paying more than where you are now.

I turned down a counter-offer this month and have never accepted one, but I would never dismiss it out of hand and would probably have taken one in the past if it was a good enough offer.
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Tbh i don't regret my decision of taking the offer to stay, it was the best decision at the time and I was happy doing my job with an wage increase. If the company hadn't decided to shaft me again i would have happily stayed.

I know they are regretting their decision far far more than i am now, I've set up and am admin for the entire remote systems we use, am the only one who holds certificates/experience to complete obscure tasks (tasks that start accruing fines if not completed) and due to my treatment I am refusing to train a replacement (absolutely impossible in my remaining 3 weeks regardless I'm around 15 years into my career)

Ive never worked for a company before in my life that needs you and your skills so badly but refuses to admit it. My industry is very specialised, especially the side i work on and there just isn't enough qualified people around. Evident in the fact that a quick phone call and straight to another company.

Anyway, onwards and upwards to a more senior position and look forward to new challenges and experiences
 
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NoobCannon said:
I know they are regretting their decision far far more than i am now, I've set up and am admin for the entire remote systems we use, am the only one who holds certificates/experience to complete obscure tasks (tasks that start accruing fines if not completed) and due to my treatment I am refusing to train a replacement (absolutely impossible in my remaining 3 weeks regardless I'm around 15 years into my career)
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When they're ****** offer to fix on the side at a flat rate of 50k :D
 
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