Poll: Official 2023 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread - Albert Park, Melbourne - Race 3/23

Rate the Australian race out of ten


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Problem with F1 can be summed up with one word.

Contrived.

DRS, daft safety cars, daft restarts, etc.

All designed to make the sport more marketable at the expense of all that was great.

Rose tinted glasses tbh, F1 has always been 80% *****, 10% decent, 10% great

DRS, safety cars, restarts are not the reason the sport rarely delivers good racing.

General rule of thumb in motorsport is that the faster the cars, the worse the racing. F1 are the fastest cars on the planet... thus you tend to get the racing you would expect.
 
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Eventful and entertaining, but also completely farcical.

Why have grid restarts, and then right off what happens if there is another accident? They did a stupid ,pointless processional finish so why not let Alpine back to be heir places too and just not bother with the meaningless last lap. Seems like loads of stupid rules.

Far too many safety cars these days and the red flags here were stupid.

Sainz penalty was pretty harsh as well.

Still, encouraging from Merc pace wise. They genuinely looked like the second fastest car here.

Also Max has no shame..complaining about lewis' move in the race and post race interview, after pulling all the **** he did in 21.

I have no idea how to score this race though...
 
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Eventful and entertaining, but also completely farcical.

Why have grid restarts, and then right off what happens if there is another accident? They did a stupid ,pointless processional finish so why not let Alpine back to be heir places too and just not bother with the meaningless last lap. Seems like loads of stupid rules.

Far too many safety cars these days and the red flags here were stupid.

Sainz penalty was pretty harsh as well.

Still, encouraging from Merc pace wise. They genuinely looked like the second fastest car here.

Also Max has no shame..complaining about lewis' move in the race and post race interview, after pulling all the **** he did in 21.

I have no idea how to score this race though...

I mean, in all fairness I don’t think you can say the safety cars today were unwarranted
 
I've only seen the Sky highlights on YouTube 15 mins or so, it took Max till lap 12 to overtake Lewis.

Is that promising for Mercs race pace, or was Max biding his time? Flew past once he got to Drs ?
 
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I've only seen the Sky highlights on YouTube 15 mins or so, it took Max till lap 12 to overtake Lewis.

Is that promising for Mercs race pace, or was Max biding his time? Flew past once he got to Drs ?
The laps before were mostly disrupted. He breezed by Hamilton as soon as they were up to race speed following the safety car.

Without the DRS from Russell, he was a sitting duck.
 
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Also Max has no shame..complaining about lewis' move in the race and post race interview, after pulling all the **** he did in 21.
I heard his radio comment which was lols but in the race - so a lot of that stuff is just the drivers saying whatever to let off steam. But he actually said something afterwards outside of the heat of the race? What did he say? :rolleyes:
 
Australian Grand Prix Corporation, (the promoters), were summoned to the stewards about the reported case of “spectator track invasion” before and after the race. Apparently spectators even made it to Hulkenberg’s car which was in a unsafe condition.
 
I've only seen the Sky highlights on YouTube 15 mins or so, it took Max till lap 12 to overtake Lewis.

Is that promising for Mercs race pace, or was Max biding his time? Flew past once he got to Drs ?
Nah max pulled something like 3 seconds on Hamilton in about 2 laps once he was past him. So even with no DRS the red bull is still far quicker.

Checo was flying through the field then seemed to take ages to get past norris of all people.
 
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Interesting how glowing Alonso has been about Lewis since the race. I think there is an element of respect there in terms of how he was able to keep that gap at 1.5s almost the whole time, in Cars that he thinks are similar in pace.

I think Alonso is just happy he is able to be up on that podium with elite tier drivers again.

I mean the podium we had yesterday was probably the most talented one possible in this year's field.
 
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Problem with F1 can be summed up with one word.

Contrived.

DRS, daft safety cars, daft restarts, etc.

All designed to make the sport more marketable at the expense of all that was great.

Once you accept f1 isn't a sport it's entertainment it becomes much easier to watch. I decided to stop viewing it as a sport a few years ago and it became easier to stomach. I kind of support alpine (the same since before they won with alonso all those years back) but I wasn't even bothered about the dnf. It's just a reality TV show now.

It is more entertaining than it used to be. DRS, artificial red flags, inconsistent rules (where even the particular driver can swing the penalty decision), penalties applied hours later, Controversial decisions.

Maybe it would be better if f1 and the audience announces this. Then we can have random sprinklers, banana skins etc etc.


People would watch real life Mario kart.


For me, f1 is trying to hold on to being a "sport" , but all the time moving to a totally "entertainment" genre.
 
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All sports that involve budgets that could run a small country for a while became entertainment businesses decades ago. See European soccer, NFL, NBA, MLB, tennis And NASCAR for details. Just because Team X in Sport Y has an army of insanely loyal supporters, it doesn’t mean that Team X isn’t run as a business.
 
It is more entertaining than it used to be. DRS

DRS makes it less entertaining, not more. It does make it more of a test simply of speed which I guess you could argue makes it a fairer sport.

artificial red flags

Red flags have become more common, but I don't agree they are applied artificially. They're just more willing to throw them and more risk averse than they used to be.

inconsistent rules (where even the particular driver can swing the penalty decision), penalties applied hours later, Controversial decisions.

All of these things are better than they used to be, imo. Look at stuff like the Schumacher bargeboard farce in '99. It's very rare to see a car disqualified after the race these days, it used to be a regular part of the sport.
 
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