Poll: Official 2023 Austrian Grand Prix Thread - Red Bull Ring, Spielberg - Round 10

[chrismscotland]

What are everyone's thoughts on LH next steps?

If that Merc doesn't seriously pick up in performance over before the Summer Break then I'm not sure he's going to stay, he's not signed a contract yet for a reason - I know there's talk its about money, etc but it has to be playing on his mind that Merc appear to be stuck like they were last year, false dawn of optimism and then back down to earth again later.

There isn't really anywhere for him to go next year though so I half wonder if he might just take a sabbatical.

 

[chrismscotland]

I don't agree. It's better to ensure the race results are fair than ensure they arrive swiftly. The range of infringements that can only be checked post-race means that you cannot have a simple "in race" rule anyway

It's not like this is a frequent occurrence.

Exactly, its pretty rare and while this has looked like a bit of a farce there's plenty of other things that get checked after the race on the cars that could cause results to change, its just rare now that a car fails to pass scrutineering.

 

[chrismscotland]

What is even more ridiculous is that the top three weren’t given penalties even though there was enough evidence to penalise the likes of Perez just like the rest of the top ten.

In your opinion there was plenty of evidence, the stewards obviously disagreed with all their wealth of camera angles, etc (including access to stuff we don't see on the feed)

 

[chrismscotland]

Would the metal cover be not too slippy for bikes?

It sounds potentially dangerous for a car, imagine if it came loose and a car ran over it?

 

[chrismscotland]

It isn't simple. The main issue with grass or gravel is that it is very unsafe for motorbike racing which uses a lot of the same circuits as F1

Exactly and they've just spent a load putting in the new chicanes, etc for Motorcycling on the first straight so that bikes enter turn 3 much more slowly, the days of F1 ruling the roost purely over a track are long gone

 

[chrismscotland]

No real issue with a graphic showing penalties, would be handy information to have

 

[chrismscotland]

Anyway feels like the topic has been flogged to death, need to see what they come up with

 

[chrismscotland]

Quite, unfortunately armchair fans will always have their, never are they wrong , opinions. Some it seems more ridiculous than others.
Perhaps if they actually drove an f1 car then maybe they'd be different.

100% this

 

[chrismscotland]

I thought this was interesting: estimated damage costs per driver so far after Austria. It's a bit too big to inline here, so I'll leave it as a link. Alpine and Ferrari well ahead on damage costs so far, Alfa Romeo the lowest so far with Zhou impressively damage free. I thought it was notable too that Logan and Piastri have both had less damage than their teammates - so much for the costly rookie stereotype - and even De Vries, who I had down as king of crashes is only about 10% more costly than his teammate.

Feels like there have been fewer out and out "car wrecks" so far this year, mainly just damage to pieces so far