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I want hidden morale or condition whatever the hell it is removed.

It's pretty dumb when you play online (fifa world cup 2010) and the cpu randomly decides that one team shall be slow and cumbersome and randomly miss passes and one should be like brazil 72.

And it happens a lot in 2010 world cup I take it's a condition thing like you get in pro evo except it's hidden with no way of knowing who's in bad condition or changing them.

All online games all players in both teams should start in best condition not that it matters seeing as fifa is essentially a 4 team game.
 
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C64 said:
I want hidden morale or condition whatever the hell it is removed.

It's pretty dumb when you play online (fifa world cup 2010) and the cpu randomly decides that one team shall be slow and cumbersome and randomly miss passes and one should be like brazil 72.

And it happens a lot in 2010 world cup I take it's a condition thing like you get in pro evo except it's hidden with no way of knowing who's in bad condition or changing them.

All online games all players in both teams should start in best condition not that it matters seeing as fifa is essentially a 4 team game.
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hidden morale/condition makes the game more realistic.

does alex ferguson know if nani is going to play well or not before the match starts and he is selecting his team?

it definitely should not be removed, but their should maybe be an option to disable it for noobs.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
hidden morale/condition makes the game more realistic.

does alex ferguson know if nani is going to play well or not before the match starts and he is selecting his team?

it definitely should not be removed, but their should maybe be an option to disable it for noobs.
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That is an unfair variable to have online though to be honest.

Hardly makes you a 'noob' if you want rid of it.
 
personality plus is a must and should have been in every game made.

i simply cannot lose in ultimate team now i have figured it out. i have bought all the fastest players from the premier league for every position in the right formation.

now all i need to do is hold L1 as i ping pong the ball about, flying past the other team until i get near the box, where i remove my finger from L1, make a pass to 1 of the open players and score.

1 guy got so mad at me for scoring 3 goals within seconds of each other, that he just simply started the old "100% possession routine" even though he was 3 goals down and i would win anyway, so i happily let him pass it about his own box.

my latest scores have all been at least 5 goals over the other team, even when im playing people who have better players than me simply because mine are faster.

to give you an example, ferdinand and vidic are both rated 75 and 76 in speed and 84/85 overall.

abongalahor is 94 in speed and 82 overall. i also have the special version of bent which is 90 in speed and 84 overall.

so all i need to do is pull a defender slightly out of position or get 1 of my players into some space and i score, because none of his guys can catch me, i also have walcott 95 speed, lennon 94 speed, malouda 85 speed, young 92 speed. (i did have kalou 88 speed in both normal and special version but the special version of malouda is a lot better at passing so i comprimised 3 speed for a much better player)

for every position i have the fastest person there is in the premier league and i am now killing teams full of world class players. i had a chelsea team before and i noticed how i was getting destroyed every game because terry 66 speed and alex 72 speed simply cannot do anything against a fast striker. the difference between terry and walcott is 29 out of 100, in a game where a difference of 5 in speed can be seen quite clearly.

because i have full chemistry, walcott, lennon and co can all make 100% perfect passes at full speed first time, without the need for controlling the ball or even moving or turning their bodies. this major bug has killed the football in fifa 10 ultimate team, its now a game of ping pong.

also teams cannot score against me because i have all the fastest defenders from the premier league, meaning they get to the ball quicker, can catch strikers easily and nudge them off the ball. terry can only nudge a player who isnt sprinting with his 66 pace even though he is rated 82 overall, gets raped by abongalohor 99 times out of 100 due to the difference in pace even though they are both the same rating.

walcott is rated 79 and is the best player in the game (uncatchable as he sprints down a wing) he costs 15,000 coins. the special version of alex rated at 85 costing 50,000 coins has got to be 1 of the worst defenders i have used.

in my new team the average price of a CB is 7,500 coins, before i had higher rated players and the average cost of a CB was 30,000 coins. now i have a shedload of coins due to selling the higher rated players for players with pace and also now my teams are unbeatable.
 
Robboftw said:
That is an unfair variable to have online though to be honest.

Hardly makes you a 'noob' if you want rid of it.
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not really, every team is different, you could say choosing different teams online is unfair.

if i know someone has picked a team with a certain weak spot, i can pick a team to counter it.

therefore what you are suggesting for online play for it to be fair, every player is identical in all attributes e.g. messi is the same speed and strength as carragher therefore making the game revolve around skill rather than the attributes of players.

if you remove morale, then i simply could not lose with brazil online in fifa 10, their players are too fast and if they all played in top condition every game, i would outsprint any other team. maicon, alves, kaka, diego, pato and fabiano, with those players in a 4-2-2-2 are the best in the game simply due to pace.

all other teams have 3/4 fast players but brazil have 6 making them nigh on invincible when on form.

b munich - lahm, ribery and robben.

r madrid - ramos, ronaldo, benzema.
 
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He isn't saying that at all!

The kind of thing that happened in Fifa 10 when your players just lost their heads completely and couldn't pass to a man next to them just does not happen at the top level in football.

It is a completely unfair thing to have in online play and it's the reason I sold Fifa 10, I don't mind getting hammered (ps3ud0 will tell you that) if I play badly, but to have the computer cripple my team so I cannot play, I draw the line at that.
 
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anticonscience said:
He isn't saying that at all!

The kind of thing that happened in Fifa 10 when your players just lost their heads completely and couldn't pass to a man next to them just does not happen at the top level in football.

It is a completely unfair thing to have in online play and it's the reason I sold Fifa 10, I don't mind getting hammered (ps3ud0 will tell you that) if I play badly, but to have the computer cripple my team so I cannot play, I draw the line at that.
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Exactly, it's insanely frustrating sometimes and takes away any fun aspect of the game.
 
anticonscience said:
He isn't saying that at all!

The kind of thing that happened in Fifa 10 when your players just lost their heads completely and couldn't pass to a man next to them just does not happen at the top level in football.

It is a completely unfair thing to have in online play and it's the reason I sold Fifa 10, I don't mind getting hammered (ps3ud0 will tell you that) if I play badly, but to have the computer cripple my team so I cannot play, I draw the line at that.
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ive never had this happen to me, in fact quite the opposite.

ive been 3-0 down at half time, managed to make it 3-3 in full time, then go on to win 6-3 in extra time.

my players still made passes fine even 3-0 down. i think it may be psychological rather than the games fault. but if a players morale is low to begin with, you just didnt notice it until the other team scored.

i am so used to the game and my team barcelona, that i know instantly if a player is low on morale, when he is on the ball for longer than 1/2 seconds. you need to learn to work out who is low on morale and whether it would then be worth subbing them.

i have subbed messi, for bojan who isnt even half the player due to the ratings, but morale can have such an effect that bojan plays better. morale cannot change during a game, that would be unfair, it would be whoever scores first wins in every game then, because as soon as the first team score the other team are shellshocked, turn to crap and lose.

morale doesnt change during games.
its completely random and you cannot see it until you use the player.
its a fair enough system.

if you guys are on PS3 - add me PsychoSonny, i have fifa 10 and send me a message for a game, im quite a good player, but i have been playing ultimate team so im no longer used to barcelona or normal online matches, i would like to see if there have been changes made which may adjust morale during a game whilst i have ben away playing ultimate team, but i doubt there have been.

im quite an experienced fifa 10 player, it was me who brought up morale in the fifa 10 thread, in which a lot of people on here didnt know about it.
 
My PSN id is below. I do not have 10 anymore but I will get Fifa 11 on release.

It's not morale that is making these things happen. If you have never had it happen to you, then think yourself lucky.

Also, why would a player start with low morale if you are starting a fresh online game?
 
anticonscience said:
My PSN id is below. I do not have 10 anymore but I will get Fifa 11 on release.

It's not morale that is making these things happen. If you have never had it happen to you, then think yourself lucky.

Also, why would a player start with low morale if you are starting a fresh online game?
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they put it in to make the game more realistic.

england had a shocking world cup, did you think that fresh into the campaign?

did you know they were going to play as bad as they did before the game?

if you played the older fifa's you would have seen the condition/morale bar, which could be seen in online games as well as offline before the match, they just simply removed the option of it being see-able.

its got nothing to do with it being a fresh game, because its random every game. random means it could be anything at any number for any player before any game. this makes the game more realistic.

say i was barcelona with a low morale team, i could still beat a 4 star team with high morale, everything has an effect on the game, its just much more realistic. rooney doesnt perform well in every game so the same is true in fifa.
 
i just remembered, i played a game once and pique was on high morale, as soon as i learned that, i switched him with what forward he is marking, and then that forward never got into the game and was barged off the ball every time he got it.

just like in real life you have to fine tune the team, every time you play, make changes to the team or sub players if need be.
 
I dont understand how it works if you choose to be a goalkeeper? how do you choose which way to dive etc?
Also i think that handballs etc should be given by refs as many times on Ultimate Team someones goalkeeper has come flying out to tackle me and ive gone round him and shot and then hes reached out and saved it and i dont get a freekick or anything....
 
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