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***Official Intel Haswell Thread***
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I think we have AMD to blame for the lack of much movement from Intel on this.
Since the 2500k was released they have not bothered to do anything that we want.
More cores? Nope! Dramatic IPC increases? Nope!
All they have done, is lowered power consumption and improved the igpu.
I'm more excited about the next gen FX chips. I think AMD have the marketing the right way round and are the Enthusiats oriented chip.
The only problem AMD have is they cant rival intel on performance...
In a way I hope the next gen consoles shape up the market. They might bring in an age where we get consumer level chips with 6 - 8 + cores from both Intel and AMD at affordable prices.
Since the 2500k was released they have not bothered to do anything that we want.
More cores? Nope! Dramatic IPC increases? Nope!
All they have done, is lowered power consumption and improved the igpu.
I'm more excited about the next gen FX chips. I think AMD have the marketing the right way round and are the Enthusiats oriented chip.
The only problem AMD have is they cant rival intel on performance...
In a way I hope the next gen consoles shape up the market. They might bring in an age where we get consumer level chips with 6 - 8 + cores from both Intel and AMD at affordable prices.
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I've been looking to upgrade my PC from my AMD fx4100, which has done me well for the last 2 or so years, but I've wanted to give intel a try for a while. When I heard they had a new chip coming out I figured it would be the ideal time to upgrade but looking at the initial reaction I'm starting to have second thoughts.
Any advice?
Any advice?
Haswell will be a good upgrade for you. People expressing disappointment here are mostly talking about improvements over the last couple of i5 and i7 series CPU's.
Seems like for once I actually made a good choice in life.
And that was buying the i7 2600k at launch nearly 2 1/2 years ago, managed to get a good chip to overclock as there really hasn't been much improvement since then by Intel like said with the ivy and haswell release
And that was buying the i7 2600k at launch nearly 2 1/2 years ago, managed to get a good chip to overclock as there really hasn't been much improvement since then by Intel like said with the ivy and haswell release
After reading the reviews and seeing the mediocre OC results I'm actually considering opting for a cheap used 2600k setup - It would be a nice upgrade from my i5 760 that won't budge past 3.8ghz, and the money I'd save by not choosing haswell could go towards a new GFX card or a couple of SSD's in RAID...
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I'll wait for a chip that's ~20% faster at games than ivy. (3 years then)
Also the pricesnearly £191 for a cpu?! I think mine was £160. Is that coz they're new or something? Or Moneygeddon.
Just greed. I won't be suprised if in a couple of years it's uncovered that there was some price gouging going on between AMD and Intel.
I don't think Haswell should be looked at as a step for performance, unless you're a benching enthusiast. It should be looked at for laptop users, home servers and HTPCs.
However, if you are on an older LGA1156 setup then it's the logical upgrade solution.
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ahhhhh I need more news on haswell ultrabooks!!! Looking to replace my main rig as I don't really game as much and won't be when I move come september-November time plus wont have the room for it. Only stuff I've seen so far is the new acers. Seems pointles buying a hp spectre when the acer looks as good/ better and may be cheaper.
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Whatever happened with the Haswell USB3 problems?
Are Z87 motherboards currently shipping with the known faulty C1 Chipset? Or has everything been replaced with the fixed C2 Chipset yet?
Are Z87 motherboards currently shipping with the known faulty C1 Chipset? Or has everything been replaced with the fixed C2 Chipset yet?
It is literally a non-issue.
It affects USB storage devices only, during the S3 sleep state and only on Intel USB3 ports.
Simply unplugging and reconnecting the USB drive will solve it, not all drives even have the problem, and if you have a USB Hub in the port apparently it is unaffected because it re-polls on wake anyway.
But yes motherboards are shipping with the C1 chipset currently, Intel expected manufacturers to have C2 by end of july.
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Interesting video about Haswell overclocking:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqdLpzwSDFo
It might mean using Prime95 and similar programmes are not an efficient way of checking Haswell overclocks,as the CPU will just throttle in a stable way as it will get too hot,even with decent cooling.
Seems,great for mobile situations,but it does complicate things for desktop enthusiasts a bit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqdLpzwSDFo
It might mean using Prime95 and similar programmes are not an efficient way of checking Haswell overclocks,as the CPU will just throttle in a stable way as it will get too hot,even with decent cooling.
Seems,great for mobile situations,but it does complicate things for desktop enthusiasts a bit.
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another spanner in the works,can't believe overheating/throttling should be an issue with latest 2013 cpu's tis rather silly,
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So in terms of overclocking would the i5 4670k reach @4.4GHz?
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There isn't a huge amount of information available just yet about the i5-4670K overclocking. Seems most reviewers got the flagship i7-4770K engineering samples. I'm sure we'll see more and more consumer feedback over the coming days/weeks. But 4.4GHz should be attainable but all depends on the lottery at the end of day I guess.