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***Official Intel Haswell Thread***

I have strange requirements; I want as much cpu power as possible...but i'll never use more than 1 gpu; I would also like built in sound suitable for ASIO use if possible, and of course it needs usb3 and sata3.
I know x79 would allow for 6core cpus, but i would also be paying for advanced SLI that i will never use; It's also supposed to use eye watering amounts of power when overclocked.
 
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ubersonic said:
Lol, its actually quite easy to argue, not every 9xx owner needs multiple GPU's or >2 ram channels, quite a few bought it simply because they wanted more than an i5 and that meant X58.
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Exactly. And unless they have £450-£800 to spend on a CPU alone they are better off with a 3770k / 4770k rather than the 3820.

Oboiusly CAD users and Heavy video editing will require more RAM which makes X79 a better option. :)
 
My room mate works in CAD company. Two months ago they finally decided to upgrade hes workstation.Chaps from IT build him a Xenon based platform with NV Tesla card. All in total around 5000f pc.
But best part is that they use some crappy cad software. That does not support multi thread and barely makes use of gpu acceleration.So when he got that pc he was bit disappointed to see that it runs FASTER on my PC than on hes workstation.
Sad to see IT guys there got totally no idea about building PCs for the task required. They could have build 3 pcs for that cash that would do the job even better.
Especially that they are not upgrading software anytime soon :/

Shame haswell did not end up with ddr4 :(
 
But you end up living in a world where you replace your mobo and cpu at the same time which is a dearly cost. I guess each to there own. I have just got the 3820 and have it rock solid stable at 4.9, and I think I could hit 5 but haven't tried yet.

I'm sitting here knowing I have upgrade options in to the 6-8 core land, and multi GPU which will allow my 680's to have a longer shelf life. Tri-sli on the 680s is reasonably poor, but getting better through driver support. 6-8 cores will be essential for top performance within 18 months I think...look at planetside 2 crysis 3 and WOW..

All these options to me doesn't require a new mobo...it is a terrible waste of money when replacing something that is perfectly fine.

Either way we are all sitting on the edge of gratuitous speed spending an awful lot of money....such a 1st world problem!
 
lnoton said:
But you end up living in a world where you replace your mobo and cpu at the same time which is a dearly cost. I guess each to there own. I have just got the 3820 and have it rock solid stable at 4.9, and I think I could hit 5 but haven't tried yet.

I'm sitting here knowing I have upgrade options in to the 6-8 core land, and multi GPU which will allow my 680's to have a longer shelf life. Tri-sli on the 680s is reasonably poor, but getting better through driver support. 6-8 cores will be essential for top performance within 18 months I think...look at planetside 2 crysis 3 and WOW..

All these options to me doesn't require a new mobo...it is a terrible waste of money when replacing something that is perfectly fine.

Either way we are all sitting on the edge of gratuitous speed spending an awful lot of money....such a 1st world problem!
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WoW still only supports 3 threads. The third is hardly used at all, but it used a little at least.

When they will upgrade the engine to support 4+ is anyone's guess.
 
Dave2150 said:
WoW still only supports 3 threads. The third is hardly used at all, but it used a little at least.

When they will upgrade the engine to support 4+ is anyone's guess.
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It actually supports a lot more its just the main game thread dwarfs all the others, the secondary audio thread dwarfs the smaller ones, etc. (Kind of like Sun>Planet>Moon>comets). Hence why Addons cane the CPU as they are dependent on the main thread as for LUA functions.
 
I'm not sure whether anyone has mentioned it - Grid 2 (digital copy) will be bundled with Haswell processors (unlocked - K versions). It was officially confirmed on Intel Poland facebook page + I was able to find some details on UK retailers' websits.
 
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I'm not sure whether anyone has mentioned it - Grid 2 (digital copy) will be bundled with Haswell processors (unlocked - K versions). It was officially confirmed on Intel Poland facebook page + I was able to find some details on UK retailers' websits.
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If you planning on building a new PC you could very well end up with a load games at the end of it if you buy the right components:

Bioshock Infinite - AMD
Far Cry 3 Blood Dragon - AMD
Tomb Raider - AMD
Far Cry 3 - OCZ
Grid 2 - Intel
 
Lord_ZED said:
But best part is that they use some crappy cad software. That does not support multi thread and barely makes use of gpu acceleration.
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It's not that unusual for the software license to cost much more than the hardware. Building an inappropriate computer is still unwise, but I sympathise with using relatively cheap code.
 
Anarch said:
I'm not sure whether anyone has mentioned it - Grid 2 (digital copy) will be bundled with Haswell processors (unlocked - K versions). It was officially confirmed on Intel Poland facebook page + I was able to find some details on UK retailers' websits.
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Cool but I already pre-ordered Grid2, I hope it can be sold on.

Reading this thread has made me doubtful about upgrading my i7-950 next month now. I've only managed to OC it to 3.8GHz which wasnt enough to match my friend's fps in Arma 2 when he was running at 4.2GHz (about 40fps compared to my 30fps). I want to upgrade primarily for running Arma 3 when it comes out (sad I know :) ), is X79 proven to be better for Arma and would it justify holding out for Ivy-E if I only intend to use it for gaming? Advice appreciated, thanks.
 
jumbo said:
Cool but I already pre-ordered Grid2, I hope it can be sold on.

Reading this thread has made me doubtful about upgrading my i7-950 next month now. I've only managed to OC it to 3.8GHz which wasnt enough to match my friend's fps in Arma 2 when he was running at 4.2GHz (about 40fps compared to my 30fps). I want to upgrade primarily for running Arma 3 when it comes out (sad I know :) ), is X79 proven to be better for Arma and would it justify holding out for Ivy-E if I only intend to use it for gaming? Advice appreciated, thanks.
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Is the rest of your friends system the same as yours? As I doubt this cpu being 400mhz faster would equate to an extra 10fps in game
 
No, most of my friends are using Sandy and Ivybridge CPUs but have similar graphics cards (mine = 580, they have 580s, 660s and 680s). Arma is a tricky one to test since the framerate is all over the place (in wasteland mod especially) so I was relying on them telling me in teamspeak and trying to compare that way. I sometimes get up to 40fps but mostly it's in the low 30s and they seem to be always in the high 30s and beyond. When I had my PC at 3.8GHz I also disabled HT and removed 6 of the 12Gigs of RAM but it was still a bit unstable so this time I just want to get an OC bundle from overclockers that will give me some headroom, hence the question about Haswell, Ivy-E and Arma. I guess I'd be better off to wait for some Arma 3 on haswell benchmarks
 
Freddie1980 said:
If you planning on building a new PC you could very well end up with a load games at the end of it if you buy the right components:

Bioshock Infinite - AMD
Far Cry 3 Blood Dragon - AMD
Tomb Raider - AMD
Far Cry 3 - OCZ
Grid 2 - Intel
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good reason to base my new br ripper on AMD while the gaming machine will be haswell :D

(If only I had that kind of available cash, lottery win here I come)

edit - for the gaming machine I would probably go 780 if I could
 
My gut feeling is that they've pushed the price up and are gathering pre-orders... probably in a few hours time they will remove Haswell from their website.
 
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