Official Microsoft Flight Simulator Thread

Zeeflyboy · 6 Aug 2020 at 20:13

That was a long but very interesting read, thanks for sharing.

andy_mk3 · 6 Aug 2020 at 20:28

Yeah thanks for sharing. Some good stuff in there, and a lot of things that echo exactly what I feel so that is good.

Really looking forward to the PMDG 737 that's for sure. Hopefully we'll get a good Q400 too from someone.

2StepSteve · 6 Aug 2020 at 21:36

FBi7 said:
Well, I've already uninstalled the beta from my system. It's awful. Contrary to what I feared, my system handled it fine. However, akin to what others have said previously, this is a [not including airports] scenery generator.

The airports were pimped to be amazing, even at basic level. They're not. Aircraft are cartoonish and handling is way off target.

The UI is too gamey and whilst eventually decipherable, is just not what serious simmers/FS veterans are used to. Default control/commands are not what we're used to. Night lighting at airports is non-existent.

I was a tester for Flight when that flopped. That almost spent as much time on my HD as this did. Almost.

WX FX seem ok though. Just like previous releases, FS2020 and the like were billed to be the dogs' doodahs and failed to deliver until various updates and 3rd party addons were completed.

I'll be sticking with P3D for a couple of years yet I think.

So glad I never pre-ordered.

Are you comparing P3D *vanilla* to MS Flight?

Gimpymoo · 7 Aug 2020 at 00:40

I am looking forward to this.

FSX is dated, despite all the mods. It is amazing what has been done with it but time to start again.

I think I will get my moneys worth, even if dropping £100 but have not decided which version.

I just want Heathrow.

Is there a career mode as such, would love flying Ryan Air and losing landing/take off spots etc and costing **** face a load of money.

Are the airports "alive" as such?

For example, is Heathrow as BUSY as Heathrow?

Morfinel · 7 Aug 2020 at 09:14

Gimpymoo said:
I just want Heathrow.

Is there a career mode as such, would love flying Ryan Air and losing landing/take off spots etc and costing **** face a load of money.

Are the airports "alive" as such?

For example, is Heathrow as BUSY as Heathrow?

No Career mode but I really hope they will add something where you start on C152 with little money and build it up
Airports have some planes taking off and ground vehicles but not as busy as in RL and I noticed small airports spawn tug tractors for towing jumbo jets or you will see american truck driving next to airport in French alps for instance.

MichaelAwkward · 7 Aug 2020 at 09:31

It took years before FSX had the likes of Ultimate Traffic, so whilst it does appear to have some kind of live AI traffic I doubt it's anywhere near accurate in volume or variety.

I used to love FSPassengers with FS2004 and FSX - but the developer is MIA and has been for some time. AirHauler is being developed for XPlane still but they haven't announced for FS2020 either.

PieEater · 7 Aug 2020 at 10:05

MichaelAwkward said:
.....AirHauler is being developed for XPlane still but they haven't announced for FS2020 either.

AirHauler was great in FSX gave a real purpose to flights and got you going to locations you wouldn't normally choose, I hope they do integrate it with FS2020.

danoliver1 · 7 Aug 2020 at 10:45

Is there an accelerate time feature? Eg if i fly from london to newyork do i have to fly for 8 hrs in real time?

Paul2k12 · 7 Aug 2020 at 11:07

Nice video here showing pretty good performance.

divebod · 7 Aug 2020 at 11:10

Talking about addons, any news on FS Economy being usable in MSFS 2020?

Morfinel · 7 Aug 2020 at 11:10

danoliver1 said:
Is there an accelerate time feature? Eg if i fly from london to newyork do i have to fly for 8 hrs in real time?

Yes and there is co-pilot taking control option but didn't test them yet

physichull · 7 Aug 2020 at 11:17

danoliver1 said:
Is there an accelerate time feature? Eg if i fly from london to newyork do i have to fly for 8 hrs in real time?

There appears to be a "travel to" feature, but I don't think it works properly just yet.

Zeeflyboy · 7 Aug 2020 at 11:35

You can speed up time, the problem I have with it is there is no indication how much you’ve sped up, so can be annoying to get back to normal speed!

Zeeflyboy · 7 Aug 2020 at 11:38

Gimpymoo said:
I am looking forward to this.

FSX is dated, despite all the mods. It is amazing what has been done with it but time to start again.

I think I will get my moneys worth, even if dropping £100 but have not decided which version.

I just want Heathrow.

Is there a career mode as such, would love flying Ryan Air and losing landing/take off spots etc and costing **** face a load of money.

Are the airports "alive" as such?

For example, is Heathrow as BUSY as Heathrow?

Not busy at the moment no, there are some planes around though. The plan is to be able to display all the live traffic if you so choose I believe.

I’m not sure how this will actually work in reality at major airports... now is obviously a slightly different time thanks to corona, but generally speaking during the summer you’d never be able to shoot an approach into somewhere like Gatwick or Heathrow without other planes getting in the way.

no career mode, but there are eg landing challenges and flight training lessons.

physichull · 7 Aug 2020 at 14:57

Could the lack of traffic bear some reflection of the lower covid 19 traffic? Or are we talking about ground support vehicles?

Morfinel · 7 Aug 2020 at 18:45

Zeeflyboy said:
You can speed up time, the problem I have with it is there is no indication how much you’ve sped up, so can be annoying to get back to normal speed!

Spam button to slow down and then press speed up twice, slowing down will always get you back to normal from 1/4, 1/2 to 1

inferno · 7 Aug 2020 at 19:14

How much is a rig going to cost that will be able to play this?

Mikeey · 7 Aug 2020 at 20:23

Zeeflyboy said:
Not busy at the moment no, there are some planes around though. The plan is to be able to display all the live traffic if you so choose I believe.

I’m not sure how this will actually work in reality at major airports... now is obviously a slightly different time thanks to corona, but generally speaking during the summer you’d never be able to shoot an approach into somewhere like Gatwick or Heathrow without other planes getting in the way.

no career mode, but there are eg landing challenges and flight training lessons.

I’d love to be able to enter a stack for busier airports and landing slots. That would add to the realism but I’m probably asking too much. Perhaps in a later patch things like this will come.

andy_mk3 · 7 Aug 2020 at 20:32

inferno said:
How much is a rig going to cost that will be able to play this?

Min spec to play you could probably manage for £300-400 especially with some used parts, but for a better experience you're looking at £600+

The better way to do it would be to set yourself a budget then spec something to that budget.

Zeeflyboy · 7 Aug 2020 at 20:46

physichull said:
Could the lack of traffic bear some reflection of the lower covid 19 traffic? Or are we talking about ground support vehicles?

Talking about aircraft traffic. Yes certainly real world flights are way down, but I think even so the airports are extremely quiet. One could pull up Flightradar or similar and check if one felt so inclined.

Morfinel said:
Spam button to slow down and then press speed up twice, slowing down will always get you back to normal from 1/4, 1/2 to 1

good tip thanks. Would still be good for a multiplier indicator to pop up for anything other than 1x but that’s a reasonable workaround.

Mikeey said:
I’d love to be able to enter a stack for busier airports and landing slots. That would add to the realism but I’m probably asking too much. Perhaps in a later patch things like this will come.

Not that it’s something I’m familiar with, but I believe that’s the sort of thing that Vatsim will allow you to play with if that’s your bag.

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