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[xbjx]

will have to have a look

 

[Fran]

Just wasted 3 diamonds making a pickaxe for a Quarry machine, but Gregtech has changed the recipe for that too So annoyed.

Now you need an industrial electrolyzer, an electrolyzer, a magnetiser, an extractor and a complete new power system to make 128 power, all this just to make two titanium dust for the new diamond drill !?
So just a warning for new people not to bother, unless you have resources coming out of your ears, I've completely run out of tin getting this far.

It's like this with most things, example Thaumcraft, I've built a research table and researched a bunch of stuff and lost tons of resources in doing so, some of which because it is so darn confusing on what you are supposed to be doing, then made an arcane worktable, then a crucible, then an infusion altar and a couple of wands.
What have I got to show for all this ? Absolutely nothing as far as I can see, except a headache and something called Nitor, which is basically a torch :|

I've got as far as basic alchemy and basic artificing but I've no idea on what to do next or what research takes me forward, I think it's unified field or something but that needs warty nether things.

Ars Magica is slightly better, you combine runes to get spells and it's easy to get a few basic ones, but after that it is just too difficult to get all the stuff required to progress.

Because all these magic things are research based, I can't even look ahead and see something that might be useful, I thought golems might be nice but they require stuff I haven't found yet.

I'm a bit stuck now, I need super duper armour to survive more than a minute in the nether, but I need blaze rods and warty things to progress. I also need tons more tin than the pitiful amount I have found in four days of mining, the lack of which currently makes Industrialcraft and Buildcraft a dead end too. Apparently there are even rarer ores to be found which is a bit worrying My home base already looks like a Swiss cheese

Anyway, I thought I'd give an update from the idiot noob side of things

 

[5punk3monk3y]

diamond drill is the drill with 3 dimms placed in a triangle around it. the recipe is reduced but the client side shows the advanced recipe (fixed if you reapply the zip file from the server).

Also why did you not ask myself or yrth or any other player instead of posting it here. I did see your rant in the chat feed but you could have asked for a little help if you are dead ended.

 

[Lithon]

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Don't despair, you just need to have a single goal and work towards that each time. You'll be greatful for the complexity eventually, otherwise it gets boring quickly.

Are you using http://feed-the-beast.wikia.com/wiki/Feed_The_Beast_Wiki ? That should always be your first stop wiki, just search there whatever you want to make, read comments etc and work out if it's viable yet. Also check out direwolf videos for any mod you're new to http://www.youtube.com/user/direwolf20/videos?view=0.

Personally I'd start with basic Industrial craft stuff (first tier stuff generally isn't effected much by gregtech), buildcraft and applied energistics (AE is unusual to use at first, but it's easy to make, just need to keep crystals/dust, and gives basically endless storage, even with quarries going - check direwolf mod spotlight on it).

If you're having trouble with ores/matts always double check locations, tin is found between level 20 and 55, make sure you're in the middle of this (some ores can be more concentrated in the center of their range).

Also what makes it so you can't survive the nether more than a few minutes? If it's blazes you don't need any super armor, just be well fed for regen and keep moving when you engage them, and take cover again when youre burning low.

 

[Parmesan]

If your having trouble in the nether I've got a few spare fire resistance potions that can be very handy

I also have a spare quarry if that would be any help?

 

[Fran]

diamond drill is the drill with 3 dimms placed in a triangle around it. the recipe is reduced but the client side shows the advanced recipe (fixed if you reapply the zip file from the server).

Not sure what you mean here

Also why did you not ask myself or yrth or any other player instead of posting it here. I did see your rant in the chat feed but you could have asked for a little help if you are dead ended.

Well there must be a few other players just starting and I thought it might be interesting to have a progress log from the bottom of the pile ? Everyone else has got amazing houses full of machines, which is nice but I don't really relate to it, and nobody else really talks about what it's like when you are starting.
I'm not stuck as such, but to progress beyond really basic machines has been made unexpectedly hard. I actually wanted to avoid quarrying because it's a bit of a fudge, and unless the two bits of tungsten I've found so far are not enough then I'm probably looking at weeks of mining to find more.

Don't despair, you just need to have a single goal and work towards that each time. You'll be grateful for the complexity eventually, otherwise it gets boring quickly.

Yes there a lot to try for sure, but it isn't linear ? Like the second spell to try uses nether wart, so if you are not fully equipped to go to the nether then that's a dead end, couldn't it have used a blue daisy or something ?
I've actually got a bit farther than I thought because at first I didn't understand the magic things at all, although I wouldn't have actually tried them if I hadn't got stuck on everything else.

Also check out direwolf videos for any mod

Dire wolf is OK and I made Nitor following his video, but as the next recipe uses stuff I haven't got that ended pretty quickly. He's a bit vague on what to research when really a few more obvious clues would have been nice. There is a large gap between his ideas about 'spoiling the surprise' and me staring blankly at a research desk wondering what to try next.

Also what makes it so you can't survive the nether more than a few minutes? If it's blazes you don't need any super armor, just be well fed for regen and keep moving when you engage them, and take cover again when youre burning low.

My location is poor, somebody oddly made a portal next door to my base but in the nether it's right on top of a hill with lakes all around, so it's like an ants nest of ghasts with no fortress buildings in sight. Plus a few hits from pigmen and I'm dead. Last game I had decent armour and a jet pack so finding blazes wasn't such a problem. I'm still using a chest plate I found in a temple chest.

I'm a bit worried about the game running out of items ? Like I'll need a thing from a Mage tower to unlock enhanced casting. I've not even seen a Mage tower yet so I'm sure everyone else has breezed in with their deluxe wand of insta-kill and walked off with everything worth having.

I can pass on something I found to new people. Try the Ars magic thing first, the Dig spell is insanely overpowered compared to anything else at this level or the next or the one after that, it's pretty much the same as a laser quarrying tool. The Life to Mana spell is essentially like a nuclear reactor to recharge the Dig spell for free, and the Blink spell is the nearest thing to a jet pack.
When you look at just how maddeningly hard it is to do anything else in the game, then Ars is a gift, I would have given up long ago without it.

Quicksand is neat, it makes a good mob trap (I prefer not to cover my land with torches). You can put water underneath to collect the things they drop when they die, although this isn't consistent for some reason.

 

[5punk3monk3y]

If you want a diamond drill for the quarry ignore what the nei says and put a drill in the centre of a crafting table then a dim on the left above and the right and then you have a dim drill.

 

[Fran]

If you want a diamond drill for the quarry ignore what the nei says and put a drill in the centre of a crafting table then a dim on the left above and the right and then you have a dim drill.

Ah OK, ta
Still at a dead end though, to make a diamond drill (from FTB) I need steel, to make steel I need a blast furnace, which (you guessed it) needs yet more things from the Nether
Blaze rods I can do eventually, but Magma cream? No way. I've seen one Magma Cube and no slimeballs so far.

Making steel stumped me last game and I had quantum armour back then. These recipes that require nether things all the time are annoying.

Currently exploring the nether using tunnels as a way to stop dying, still not seen any nether wart yet. I thought I'd be clever and try a growth spell on some soul sand, didn't work though

Discovered an Ars Magic essence refiner let's you make self repairing armour really easily, just a gem and some wool !? Massively overpowered compared to anything else I could make right now.


Added:
I gave up and jgrinches kindly helped me with some steel (house is like StarTrek O_o !) so now I have a quarry thing. I didn't really want to ask for help, but requiring 34 magma cream might as well be 200 diamonds, I know which of the two I could aquire faster

 

[yrthilian]

fran asking for help is not big deal
that is the point of the community

in other news
Minecraft vanilla

I have been getting asked to update the server but this cannot be done as
none of the mods that help run the back-end of the server are updated.
looking to me that Bukkit is going the way of the dodo

currently Forge essential is on 1,5,1 and is not stable yet so cant move to that ether. So for the moment i am sorry to say MC Vannila is stuck on 1.4.7 for the moment. will keep looking for a solution for the moment

 

[nuttyprot]

Can we get a restart on mod server please very laggy.

 

[Reaper 392]

Ah OK, ta
Still at a dead end though, to make a diamond drill (from FTB) I need steel, to make steel I need a blast furnace, which (you guessed it) needs yet more things from the Nether
Blaze rods I can do eventually, but Magma cream? No way. I've seen one Magma Cube and no slimeballs so far.

Making steel stumped me last game and I had quantum armour back then. These recipes that require nether things all the time are annoying.

Currently exploring the nether using tunnels as a way to stop dying, still not seen any nether wart yet. I thought I'd be clever and try a growth spell on some soul sand, didn't work though

Discovered an Ars Magic essence refiner let's you make self repairing armour really easily, just a gem and some wool !? Massively overpowered compared to anything else I could make right now.


Added:
I gave up and jgrinches kindly helped me with some steel (house is like StarTrek O_o !) so now I have a quarry thing. I didn't really want to ask for help, but requiring 34 magma cream might as well be 200 diamonds, I know which of the two I could aquire faster

This wont be of much use now, but for later dont forget that there is one recipe that uses the minium stone to get steel. It makes the steel dust that looks more like fragments than dust. I cant remember exactly how it works, but i'm sure you will find it

I believe you can make magma cream by combining slime balls and blaze dust which should make things a bit easier

The ars magica armour does look a little OP compared to the vanilla armour, but then pretty much every high end armour does that imo. dont forget that the higher end archmage armour will completely drain your mana very quickly, which is what it uses to repair itself. i believe you need to be ~magic level 21 before the archmage armour is sensible to use.

 

[Fran]

fran asking for help is not big deal
that is the point of the community

Yes I know, but there is a difference between me asking daft questions because this is all a bit complicated and I'm a bit dim, to being handed stuff for free. I really like to play properly if I can

I've just worked the actual cost of the machine (industrial furnace ?) to make those few bits of steel and it's something like three weeks of mining for me now that's a big leap in difficultly/boredom from the two days it took to make a macerator.
The people making these game mods need to relax a bit, I'd rather spend a bit more time connecting pipes together than holding a virtual pickaxe for hours every night.

No ghasts today ? Must be their day off too

 

[Parmesan]

Server down? Anyone about to give it a quick kick up the... Restart I mean?

 

[Lithon]

I've just worked the actual cost of the machine (industrial furnace ?) to make those few bits of steel and it's something like three weeks of mining for me now that's a big leap in difficultly/boredom from the two days it took to make a macerator.

You don't need much steel so it's usually far easier to find steel items in loot chests around the world and smelt them down for the steel to get your drill/quarry going then get the industrial furnace later to make your own.

 

[nuttyprot]

Mod server down

 

[yrthilian]

seems to be working fine just rebooted it anyway

 

[Yetiii]

I have been playing on this server for a short time. It has been a nice change to playing single player.

I have a quarry setup and have started stockpiling some resources. I would now like to create a tree farm in order to collect some wood and to start the creation of biomass/biofuel. I have some experience with the original arboretum and logger from forestry, would you recommend using this again or building one of the many alternatives (steve's carts, forestry multiblock, deployer/block breaker, turtle, minecraft reloaded)?

 

[Marine Iguana]

The new forestry multi farms are brilliant for creating Biomass even a basic 3x3x4 one can supply a good amount of saplings to start with.

 

[HUNTER.P]

I went from manually farming trees for saps to the multiblock farms.

If you want a good starting set up go to spawn and remove the book in the chest with your name on it. It will take you to mine

 

[Talbs13]

I really wish the instructions to connect to the Mod server was helpful. It's incredibly difficult to follow.

I've download Feed the Beast. Download the Ultimate Pack. Launched MC and quit. Downloaded that minecraft.zip from linktart.co.uk which 9MB, copied the contents into the Ultimate / Minecraft folder and I still get the message about Forge Mod crap and a load of mods missing.

ANNOYED.