*** Official Rugby League SLXXI Thread ***

Yeah, there should be a fixed period of extra time.

In Touch Rugby we do drop-offs. That could make it even more interesting!

physichull, you can stick around and gloat about your walk overs next year.

Really? Hmmm. I am not sure thats much to shout about! Despite relegation, there have been a lot of positive noises coming from the club. Going to keep a full time playing squad, no under 23 team and try and keep a strong core of a team left. Still hints of a few super league quality signings too, so hopefully we can attack the middle 8s next year. I cant imagine Huddersfield and Leeds will be in there next year though!!
 
Do you know what, its actually quite enjoyable being able to support 11 teams in the Super League rather than just one!

Been some really corking games this year. Stand out being any time Castleford have been on the tv! They have been amazing so far. Really surprised with Wire, can't quite believe what's going on there.

Oh well, Rovers are doing alright in the Championship. 6 from 6 so far with a pretty ropey game against Rochdale. We quite simply have to get out of this league. Its dire in so many ways. I honestly don't know how clubs survive here with a couple of hundred fans. Rochdale for instance, there was a crowd of 1900, with about 1700 Rovers fans! The rugby isn't as bad as a lot make out, there are a few teams who will give it a go, but so far Rovers have crushed pretty much everybody. You would think that would be great from a fans point of view, but it just isn't. The fans just turn up, the atmospheres are usually pretty drab and unexciting, especially when Rovers are 40-0 up and the result has been decided. Celebrating yet another try, it just feels dull. Its like the whole season is just one massive protracted pre-season leading up to the middle 8s. We simply have to get out of this league.

The other thing that is constantly perplexing about this league is that teams rosters tend to change so much. Most clubs has a large quantity of players on dual reg, here one week, gone the next. There's no continuity and its got to be one of the problems with this league. Its obviously a symptom of the small numbers of players actually playing the game and progressing.

All that being said, this team we have now has a feeling of being so much better than the one that got relegated. We have some decent forwards and some great backs, especially Andrew Heffernan. I am optimistic about the 8s and we will definitely be gunning for whoever is struggling. Now that we are down here though, we have so much more incentive to get out/stay out of this league, perhaps more than some other teams like Widnes or dare I say it Huddersfield and I hope that acts as an advantage to us. We've seen how bad it is and hopefully more desperate/enthusiastic than an unsuspecting SL team.
 
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To be honest if KR dont go straight back up then they will be stuck in the Championship, until franchising is reintroduced, or 2 up 2 down is restored.

Either way for teams like KR/Bulls and perhaps Leigh, they need cash injections on a monthly basis to stand any chance of promotion. The system is so stacked in favor of the existing superleague teams, whilst giving the illusion of promotion. You might say Leigh was proof of the concept, but only because Beaumont spent a fortune to get them there.

Agree entirely.

As for the salary cap, I'm not sure I agree with the proposed amendments. They are somewhat geared to make the "big clubs" bigger. Marquee signings upped to two? As far as I am aware there is only one player in the whole of SL who is classed as a marquee signing (Sam Tomkins)?? To me, it just seems like this makes clubs like Leeds, Wigan and Wire able to flex their financial muscles a bit more and undermine the whole basis of having the salary cap in first place.

I find it hard to see how clubs like Wakefield could afford a marquee signing given their low crowds and lack of decent stadium.
 
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Pretty disappointed by the Wigan Saints game, was all set up to be a cracker but the result looked inevitable after that red card. Yellow for me to be honest, Amor did it with no malice, his arm just bounced up his chest and into his face. A bit unfortunate in my opinion.

A testing game against Featherstone today for HKR. They are a pretty decent team and held us until late on. Some absolutely horrendous officiating though who tried his level best to hand it to Fev. One thing about this league is that the officiating is definitely a level or ten down from SL standard. Some of them make James Child look flawless.
 
Cracking game on tv last night, really engrossing.

Rovers put up a very good performance against Salford in the CC a couple of weeks back but it wasn't quite enough. The performances against the SL opposition has certainly given me a lot of hope for the Middle 8s though. On the other hand, I think SL clubs shouldn't underestimate the Championship opposition either. There is certainly a banana skin waiting to happen if they aren't careful, particularly with Featherstone.

Big Bash this weekend, not going, but certainly watching Rovers on telly.

Hopefully there is another great game to be had before then with Leeds Wire tonight.
 
I am absolutely positive that Wire will be fine in the middle 8s! Id tip them to top that competition but the more tine goes by the more it looks like they will be in the middle 8s. Still think it ouvht to be one up one down though.
 
Physichull

Does this mean that we get a more active SL thread next year

OK. I've been sulking for wayyyyy too long and I'll be honest I've not even looked in the Sports pages here recently.

Totally satisfied with the way the season went. Managed to get to a fair few games over the course, Rochdale, Halifax, Swinton, Leigh x 2, Salford and Warrington. Our whole season has been fairly straightforward albeit we weren't going into the Middle 8s with great form having lost to Toulouse and were shakey against Featherstone. With Carney and Masoe signed we scraped through our first M7s game against Fax (with a Scruton last minute try). It could have been a bit different had he not crossed then. The rest of the games were relatively straightforward, the Leigh game at LSV was massive and it was an awesome atmosphere and another vital win.

The Widnes game was a bit edgy but I think with Sheens he has got us playing ugly rugby but a brand that wins matches, and that's exactly what we did to Widnes. Was absolutely over the moon when we saw Wire had also beaten Leigh, the rest of that night is a bit of a blur!!!!

Chuffed to be back in SL and even with our reserve team we ran Catalan close and Wire was just an end of season dead rubber (with the particular highlight of Rovers and Wire fans stood outside the Rodney pub whilst a bus plastered in Saints guff pulled up next to us! Cue unrepeatable chanting from both fans! :D

There will likely be rumours about who we will sign over the next few weeks as we still have a lot of cap to work with but I wouldn't be surprised if they were all wrong. The latest signings have all come completely out of the blue and Sheens has a tight lipped staff at the club.

Feel sorry for Leigh but frankly I can't see any other way than returning to franchising with at least a 14-16 team competition. Leigh need chance to develop an academy and support base which they can't achieve during a one season wonder. It's so damned difficult for the relegated clubs. You only have to look at Bradford to see how devastating that was. Fatal in fact. I wonder if Salford had gone down instead of us last year whether they would have still existed as a club? I don't think so, not with 1000 ish fans and no academy. Its fortunate for us that we have an excellent set of owners and fans who have really galvanised since that dreadful day last year. I think if we hadn't have made it this year we would still have been strong next year. Wrongs have been righted and we are now back in SL, the derbys are back, but we can't be complacent. We have merely repaired the damage. We need to kick on from now and I believe the club is actually in a much, much better state than had we not been relegated. We had chance to clear out and literally start again, and what better coach to do it? We have some quality, quality players now, particularly Andrew Heffernan (centre). He's been immense this year.

Watched the MPG last night. What a dreadful occasion. It really has to go. Its just jeopardy for the sake of it and leaves little time for clubs and players to plan their futures. Sure it would work if the sport was awash with money, but it just isn't and its jobs and livelihoods on the line. I see plenty of comments from fans of bigger clubs like Leeds and Saints praising it but ultimately they will never been the ones threatened with the abyss, they sit on high towers. Sam Moa was spot on with his comments.

The only way has to be a bigger comp, 16 teams ideally with Toronto (8000 interested fans is better than 1000 barely bothered Salford fans, frankly), Bradford (if they can ever sort themselves out), Toulouse and Leigh (and potentially London if they can prove they meet licence criteria, which they won't given terrible crowds and an unstable home).

On the other hand, those Super 8 semi finals were absolutely outstanding, particularly the Cas Saints game. Wow! Not seen a game as exciting as that in a LONG time! I can't imagine how it must have felt when Saints took the lead Landy! (actually I can, when Salford took the lead last year!!! Its going to take me years to get over that trauma). Stunning, stunning game. Good luck for the Grand Final, hope Cas win! (still can't really believe how many ex-Rovers players in that team, Cook, Eden, Webster - the latter I can't believe is still going, he had glass shoulders when he played for us)
 
One man who now won't be there is Zak Hardaker. Oh dear Zak, what have you done. Not a catastrophe for Cas but it is a big blow. I don't know what he has done (and we shouldn't speculate here as I don't want anyone to get into trouble) but as far as bad timing goes, this is appalling. Players would give limbs to play in the Grand Final.
 
Gutted for Cas. Leeds totally dominated that final though and Cas just never got a sniff. McGuire was class though, truly outstanding. I wonder who he's going to play for next season cos he's still got it! :)
 
Finals are always edgy affairs. The weather didn't help much as a Cas are a side that loves to throw the ball around, conditions yesterday were just not conducive to that.

Leeds played very well but Cas had a massive off-day. Really disappointed for Cas on what was probably one of their biggest chances for years.
 
Zak Hardaker likely to get a two year suspension for taking cocaine. Stupid boy. World at his feet and he's thrown it all away. Cas have now burnt £150k transfer fee for a one season wonder who missed the GF and now the WC.

To add to Chase and Walker. Anuone know the latest on them? As far as I know they were just suspended by their clubs? Not heard the punishment yet.
 
I know Eden has got a great try scoring record this year but I still can't get out of my head what an absolute liability the guy was at times at Rovers. He could win you a game with a moment of genius but quite easily lose you one with a massive brain explosion. He is definitely better on the wing than at full back, he's just too unsteady for that role, despite his brilliance in chiming into attack. For me, Cas missed him on the wing on Saturday.
 
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