Bloody hell, not a good day...
On top of both these issues, I also picked up a few Noiseblocker PL2 fans for the case, an unless I get creative with glue/sellotape there's no way (without 4 hands and a lot of swearing) to get them in the front intake slots.
Well, getting them in there is fine, but the long screw + slim nut mounting method they use makes it impossible to fit as the nuts/screws clash with the 3.5" bays and getting your hand in there isn't happening...
Bah!
On the plus side, I only picked these as a last minute rush replacement for the TY-141's when I realised they wouldn't fit in the front heightwise. When measuring up, I only concerned myself with the 160mm width of 141's and forgot that they're still 140mm tall. D'oh!
The PL2's were not my first choice by far, although I'd probably have been happy with them.
I didn't even bother to hook them up after trying to fit the first one. Back you go too boys.
EDIT: That Alpenfohn fan whines more than I have so far in this thread believe it or not. Removing the dust filter quietens down the air rush noise, but that just uncovers the droning sound of what appears to be the motor or something... You can hear it over the stock cpu cooler, 2 Arctic F12's and an idling 5870.
WTF is going on today?