Oil Tanker on fire after collision with cargo ship (East Yorkshire Coast)

The Funktopus said:
Fatigue would be my guess. Coastal cargo and container feeder ships’s like Solong run frequent, short passages in busy waters, with constant pilotage, mooring and cargo ops. The crews often work 6 hours on, 6 hours off shifts, which makes it impossible to get 6 hours of continuous sleep, especially when companies also expect you to do unpaid “overtime” as part of your contract. A few weeks of that and you’re absolutely hollowed out.

Never did it myself, as I did 10 years as an engineering officer deep sea on tankers and LNG, but a friend of mine from college did his 1st trip qualified around Europe as a deck officer on small coastal bulk carriers, and it sounded absolutely horrendous.
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I never got why 6 on 6 off when 12 on 12 off allows for a decent period of rest.
 
14 crew on the Solong, with one still missing. It was carrying sodium cyanide along with other cargo so the environmental fallout could be quite nasty.
 
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Uther said:
14 crew on the tanker, with one still missing. It was carrying sodium cyanide along with other cargo so the environmental fallout could be quite nasty.
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Think we've got a good idea at work who it was chartered to - owner and potential charters are being very quiet.
 
15 containers of Sodium Cyanide which affects oxygen use in the body. A small 300mg dose orally is fatal.

Combine that with change of wind direction this week, lets hope its all contained.
 
Bobcat said:
Don't most ships/boats have AIS tracking onboard, certainly commercial i would thought something like that is mandatory, what did they do sleep through that kind of alarm going off giving warning they were on track for a collision with a stationary ship ......
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Yes they do, but still relies on human intervention
 
Bobcat said:
Don't most ships/boats have AIS tracking onboard, certainly commercial i would thought something like that is mandatory, what did they do sleep through that kind of alarm going off giving warning they were on track for a collision with a stationary ship ......
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AIS has nothing to do with it and is not used for tracking ships onboard. They use radars and ECDIS systems to navigate.
 
Find it hard to find out what the situation is, have either of them sank? With the Solong carrying hazardous goods, the containers with the sodium cyanide in them should be tucked away, deep down in the holds to keep them out of the way. I’d imagine if she’s still afloat, just with her bow stoved in from the impact, her cargo should be largely intact.

Ship’s are designed with a collision bulkhead, with the bow designed to take a head on impact without comproming buoyancy for the rest of the ship, so if she t-boned the Stena Immaculate, she should have come out of it much better off. Then of course there’s how the sodium cyanide would be packed, which would probably be in plastic bags, in sealed drums inside a container.
 
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The Funktopus said:
Find it hard to find out what the situation is, have either of them sank? With the Solong carrying hazardous goods, the containers with the sodium cyanide in them should be tucked away, deep down in the holds to keep them out of the way. I’d imagine if she’s still afloat, just with her bow stoved in from the impact, her cargo should be largely intact.

Ship’s are designed with a collision bulkhead, with the bow designed to take a head on impact without comproming buoyancy for the rest of the ship, so if she t-boned the Stena Immaculate, she should have come out of it much better off. Then of course there’s how the sodium cyanide would be packed, which would probably be in plastic bags, in sealed drums inside a container.
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Not had anything through so far on a sinking but given the time the updates might be slow.
From what I saw earlier it looked like a t-boning.
 
Time to avoid cyanided North Sea fish for a while, not to mention all the other wildlife that will ingest this toxic soup.:(
 
Weird paragraph on the bbc website.
It came out of the blue, a tanker crew member told the BBC's Rowan Bridge. He and his colleagues were buying new clothes in the local Asda - they had no time to collect their belongings before being rushed onto lifeboats.
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They were shopping in the local asda..but then rushed to the lifeboats. Sounds like they didn't collect their purchases. You'd almost think there was a branch of Asda on the ship.

I assume what was meant is they were doing online shopping with the local asda when it happened and then went straight to the lifeboats without gathering up their personal belongings onboard. In which case what does mentioning ASDA have to do with anything.

"They were doing online shopping when it happened...."
 
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tangey said:
Weird paragraph on the bbc website.


They were shopping in the local asda..but then rushed to the lifeboats. Sounds like they didn't collect their purchases. You'd almost think there was a branch of Asda on the ship.

I assume what was meant is they were doing online shopping with the local asda when it happened and then went straight to the lifeboats without gathering up their personal belongings onboard. In which case what does mentioning ASDA have to do with anything.

"They were doing online shopping when it happened...."
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It's the BBC. Every article is riddled with nonsense text, spelling mistakes and grammatical errors.
 
The more lurid websites are going with a potential hacking angle here.

I have absolutely no expertise in shipping but would have thought it extremely unlikely.

Or is there some way it could potentially be done?
 
esmozz said:
The more lurid websites are going with a potential hacking angle here.

I have absolutely no expertise in shipping but would have thought it extremely unlikely.

Or is there some way it could potentially be done?
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While the situation seems unusual in how it unfolded, it's highly unlikely.

It's probably just a significant human error.
 
tangey said:
Weird paragraph on the bbc website.


They were shopping in the local asda..but then rushed to the lifeboats. Sounds like they didn't collect their purchases. You'd almost think there was a branch of Asda on the ship.

I assume what was meant is they were doing online shopping with the local asda when it happened and then went straight to the lifeboats without gathering up their personal belongings onboard. In which case what does mentioning ASDA have to do with anything.

"They were doing online shopping when it happened...."
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If you read an earlier paragraph in the live feed it makes more sense (but is extremely poorly phrased).

The reporter was speaking to them in the local Asda, where they were buying new clothes because they had to leave all their clothes onboard when they abandoned ship.
 
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