Ok guy's give me a spec!

snailham6 · 4 Mar 2006 at 23:49

ok into my pcs ,downloading, games etc a lot got about £600 to spend (and im a student) !

What i dont need is a monitor got a dell 24" 2405FPW widescreen (dvi) lcd monitor , speakers Logitech 5.1 setup , logitech bluetooth dinovo keyboard and mouse desktop so im after the main desktop minus a hard drive got a seagate sata 400GB ,and usb freeview tv stick ,

Tried to give detail so u know wats connecting ,

i like running lots of things at once so maybe dual core is best donno, not sure to go AMD or Intel and graphics ATI or gefoce i want to be able to play the lastest games possible a SLi card / motherboard , defo want a nice new mother board with pci express to allow future upgrages to sli etc min of a gig of ram, and if possible a plain black style case maybe mini atx and quite ! standard dvd dual layer +/- no floppy ummm

think ive given you enought to get started im realy relying on u guys as a friend said you wouldnt let me down any question give me a shotu my msn is [email protected] if anyone wats to add me to talk etc cheers guys!!!

quadboi · 5 Mar 2006 at 00:07

Will you be Overclocking?

Eliminos · 5 Mar 2006 at 00:08

MB-129-AS Asus A8R-MVP Crossfire (Socket 939) PCI-Express Motherboard (MB-129-AS)
£69.95 £69.95
FG-000-AR Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro CPU Cooler (Socket 754/939/940) (FG-000-AR)
£14.50 £14.50
CD-026-NE NEC ND4551 16x16 DVD±RW Dual Layer LabelFlash ReWriter (Black) - OEM (CD-026-NE)
£27.95 £27.95
CA-040-AN Antec Sonata II Piano Black Quiet Case - 450W Smart Power PSU (CA-040-AN)
£65.95 £65.95
CP-141-AM AMD Opteron UP 144 San Diego 1.8GHz 1MB Cache (Socket 939) - Retail (CP-141-AM)
£114.95 £114.95
GX-037-PC PowerColor ATI Radeon X850 XT 256MB GDDR3 TV-Out/DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (GX-037-PC)
£129.95 £129.95
MY-005-GL GeIL 1GB (2x512MB) PC3200 Value Dual Channel Kit CAS2.5 (GE1GB3200BHDC) (MY-005-GL)
£49.95 £49.95
Subtotal £473.20
Shipping (City Link Parcel Next Day (Delivered Mon-Fri)) £9.95
VAT £84.56
Total £567.71

You have £30 to play with there if you wish to swap and choose. I couldn't fit a 3800x2 into budget, although I would have liked to. The Opteron should clock to about 2.4 I think (current 2006 opterons are quite good clockers). I didn't think 2GB of RAM would be necessary considering you won't be playing any games at setting that require 2GB of RAM with the x850. All in all its quite a good rig and will do you for most games at medium quality at 1280x1024.

snailham6 · 5 Mar 2006 at 00:10

may overclock not to sure if i do only by a bit !

snailham6 · 5 Mar 2006 at 00:15

the budget is a little bit flexable might have to do some more hours at work ! i would liek to play games at 1600x1200 my desktop resultion if poss

Eliminos · 5 Mar 2006 at 00:16

1600x1200 may be pushing it at medium settings on a £400 X1900. I think your expectations are a tad high. Having never experienced 1600x1200 though, I can't really pass judgement on what will or will not reach that size. Though I'm betting you're going to need to spend about £400 more to get a decent 1600x1200 gaming rig.

snailham6 · 5 Mar 2006 at 00:21

true i mean at the mo im running a P4 2.8hz overclocked to 3.0ghz , 1gb ram 400gb hd , ati radeon 9800 in a Aopen XC cube AV edition i mean it runs most games ok not amazing so want something better !

Explicit · 5 Mar 2006 at 00:28

To get good gaming on that 24" monitor, you'll want an X1900XT(X). Thats the best part of £400 gone. I've compromised graphics down to the X1800XT 512MB to try and stay within budget, but the 512MB memory is better for 1600 x 1200 resolution. And 2GB RAM would have been ideal, but it's just not possible without going way over budget.

AMD Athlon 64 3700+ San Diego 90nm (Socket 939) - Retail (ADA3700BNBOX) (CP-121-AM)
£152.69
Asus A8R-MVP Crossfire (Socket 939) PCI-Express Motherboard (MB-129-AS)
£82.19
OcUK Value 1GB (2x512MB) PC3200 184pin DDR Memory Dual Channel Kit (MY-004-OK)
£46.94
PowerColor ATI Radeon X1800 XT 512MB GDDR3 AVIVO TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (GX-048-PC)
£258.44
NEC ND4570 16x16 DVD±RW Dual Layer ReWriter (Black) - OEM (CD-030-NE)
£29.32
Antec SLK3800BUK Black Quiet Midi Tower Case - 400W SmartPower PSU (CA-048-AN)
£64.57

Total inc VAT: £634.15

You can crossfire later on.

snailham6 · 5 Mar 2006 at 00:32

ok anyone else got any idea would be cool to give me a good over view i mean i dont mind compromising the grahics a bit then as i dont think il get amazing graphics at that res so as long as stuff runs reasonabley well ill be happy Thanks so far !

ACESHIGH · 5 Mar 2006 at 00:43

Asus A8R-MVP Crossfire (Socket 939) PCI-Express Motherboard (MB-129-AS)
£82.19
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 3800+ (Socket 939) - OEM (CP-152-AM)
£187.94
Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro CPU Cooler (Socket 754/939/940) (FG-000-AR)
£17.04
Antec Performance TX640B-EC Black MiniTower Case - 400 Watt
£72.79
Corsair 1GB DDR Value Select PC3200 CAS3.0 Kit (2x512MB) (VS1GBKIT400C3) (MY-061-CS)
£56.34
Pioneer DVR-111DBK 16 x 16 DVD±RW Dual Layer ReWriter - (Black) OEM (CD-038-PO)
£29.32
PowerColor ATI Radeon X850 XT 256MB GDDR3 TV-Out/DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (GX-037-PC)
£152.69
Shipping (City Link Parcel Next Day (Delivered Mon-Fri)
£9.95

Total £608.26 including VAT

Here you get the dual core X2 3800+ & other specs are about the same, & within your budget.

or the above but with the X1800XT 512MB would be £714.01 including VAT

Eliminos · 5 Mar 2006 at 00:47

I'd think the x1800 would be more beneficial to high res gaming than the 3800x2 would be. It depends what you are going to be doing more though, high intensity multi tasking, or playing high quality games.

snailham6 · 5 Mar 2006 at 00:53

lol im not sure may be a bit of both lol arghhhh!

Explicit · 5 Mar 2006 at 00:54

ACESHIGH has spec'd a great multi-tasking rig. So if you do more general multitasking than gaming, dual core is the way to go. It's all down to what you want to do with the rig. But that 24" monitor is hard to please without increasing the budget.

snailham6 · 5 Mar 2006 at 00:58

lol mite have to get rid of it even thooo i love it !

ACESHIGH · 5 Mar 2006 at 00:59

snailham6 said:
ok into my pcs ,downloading, games etc a lot got about £600 to spend (and im a student) !

i like running lots of things at once so maybe dual core is best donno, not sure to go AMD or Intel and graphics ATI or gefoce i want to be able to play the lastest games possible a SLi card / motherboard

asking a lot for the money.
but as he states he does a lot at once then the X2 3800+ would be better.
but he also wants to game so X1800XT 512MB is better.

if he can get both then, everything will be ok

ACESHIGH · 5 Mar 2006 at 01:00

Explicit said:
But that 24" monitor is hard to please without increasing the budget.

so true ! for gaming anyway.

snailham6 · 5 Mar 2006 at 01:05

ive been looking at this spec

AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ Socket 939 Dual Core 2.0ghz 512Kb and 512Kb Cache £175.42

Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe S939 NF4 SLI ATX - Sound 2xgln 1394 USB2 SATA 84.02

CLub 3d Radeon X1800XL 256Mb GDDR3 - PCI-E Dual-DVI Vivo Retail £170.19

All Black Neon Midi Case with 400W PSU £24.99

Crucial 1GB 240 Pin DIMM Unbuffered DDR2 PC4300 £56.49

LG GSA-4167BAL 16x DVD±RW Dual Layer Internal IDE (Black) - OEM £22.10

Cart Total: £533.21
Shipping : £4.40
Approx Cart Weight: 11.08Kg
SubTotal: £538.21
VAT: £94.22
Total: £632.43

any views

snailham6 · 5 Mar 2006 at 01:06

a little over my budget but iff its gonna be good will be worth it *puts girlfriend on ebay * lol!

Explicit · 5 Mar 2006 at 01:09

First off, the SLI mobo is a waste with the ATi card. Take the Crossfire board, or the one PCI-E slot A8N-E.

I wouldn't trust that powersupply in the case, especially for powering dual core and a hungry graphics card.

And finally, the DDR2 ram is wrong.

Eliminos · 5 Mar 2006 at 01:09

DDR2 memory isnt compatable with AMD motherboards/processors. You'd be better off buying the several times specced 2x512MB GeiL Value RAM (which is very good for the price) and the NEC ND4551 or ND4550-As are better DVD-RW drives then the LG model, and for only £5 more or so.