Okay, workout routine. need YOUR help

The Running Man · 13 Mar 2003 at 17:15

okay im fed up of being a skinny lanky *******, and i need your help

i saw some other guy in GD who was kinda in a similar situation with a really high motabolism like me but he managed to make some progress.

i am a total beginner, and am desperately in need of advice on food and excersices to do.

this is the deal:

I am willing to put in an hour every morning into the excersises, and eat whatever protein diet recommended, (ill probably need 3000 calories a day to bulk up any)

the problem:

i dont have acess to a gym.

i have my room, which has many heavy wooden chairs, which i can use to lift (i.e bench press them) i can do pushups on the floor, and anything else that you think is reasonable.

im not expecting monster results and will be able to go to a gym when i get home after april, so until then ill be mainly just slowly bulking first

i need a routine to follow every morning (make it reasonable to start pls

i can do 10-15 proper pressups in a set, usually 50 per hour)

and i need to know what kind of foods/suppliments i need to take, and how often etc.

advice would be much appreciated.

thx

The Running Man · 13 Mar 2003 at 17:56

surely someone can help me out here?

u can mail me answers if u like

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The Running Man · 13 Mar 2003 at 18:24

okay ill take a look, the problem is though that i believe i am lactose intollerant, and thus the milkshakes i dont think i can take, so is there any other forms of protein i can take without having it as a milk shake?

is there anything i can add water too, or eat or something?

i suppliment my vitamins and i tend to eat 2-3 big meals a day, i.e like an extra large pizza (cheese free) for my tea, and usually sommat like a subway for my dinner, then i eat about 2 chocolate bars, an apple, and usually a bowl of noodles or two bowls of pasta etc. i usually eat a chicken dish once or twice a day too..

but i need something else to give me a big boost

The Running Man · 13 Mar 2003 at 18:47

okay cheers for that

i just nipped to the local shop to pick up a protein bar to see what they are like and what they cost

i got a proteinplus bar (fudge brownie flavour)

http://www.powerbar.com/Products/ProteinPlus/

its got 24 g protein per bar

and judging by balddongs comments in another thread i searched for on diet (thanks) he says u need like 1.5g per pound so i need approx 6 bars per day

they cost approx £1.5 per bar, so im not sure i can sustain more than 2-3 bars per day

im not sure when to intake the protein though, should i do it before or after my hour or as a suppliment for my breakfast or?

The Running Man · 13 Mar 2003 at 18:54

cool, ill take a look (i wasnt disregarding your answer btw, there arent any shops within 5 mins of here that sell tubs, only bars so i just tried one of those)

ill get some shakes, and ill see what it does

any recommendations of which shakes? i presume something with creotine or something?

edit: your one step ahead

The Running Man · 13 Mar 2003 at 18:58

my god this bar is sickly, i can barely finish it!! (and trust me im a chocolate fiend)

a lot of those posts give directions about odering in england, but im out of the country at the moment, and wont be back for a month or two, so ill have to find sommat similar here

is whey gain or whatever good?

The Running Man · 13 Mar 2003 at 22:58

EAT MORE

i hear u man, but its like too expensive to eat enough, i eat 2 -3 proper filling meals a day, and tbh cant afford that many more full meals, (poor student)

so im going to have to suppliment with protein to build it up.

The Running Man · 14 Mar 2003 at 05:34

thanks for that guys, im gonna go out tomorow pick up some protein mixture, and some eggs, `ive found out u can scramble eggs in the microwave in a cup, so ill have that for my breakfast after a morning workout, then a snack bar at 11 ish, a shake/pasta lunch at 1-2pm, chicken meal at 5-6pm, shake at 8pm, and a scrambled egg at 10-11pm

does that sound like a reasonable diet? (i am starting to suppliment my vitamins too, ande drinking 3 ocean spray bottles per day, plus chocolate snacks to add calories.

The Running Man · 14 Mar 2003 at 16:28

If you fancy a drink, drink full fat milk

agh no can do im afraid, i am lactose andf cant have that much milk...

Lots of water

does ocean spray count, its like 80% water 20% fruitjuice?

Buy some multivitamins

already one step ahead there

snack bar at 11 try and get a tuna sandwich

ill try but its definately easier to get hold of a bar than some tuna unfortunately.

i have read that eating too much meat protein is actually bad for your body, that you will encounter problems due to higher cholestoral, and something about heart disease, thats the kind of stuff that worries me:/

Buy some cheap dumbells - you can do a reasonable workout with just dumbells

i have a travel bag, that i am loading up with stuff, i have a couple of small dumbells at home, and it feels just like them, but heavier, so im gonna try that

all i am doing now really is prepping my body maybe expecting a bit of growth, till i get home in april, when i will have more food and facilities available to me

cheers everyone so far

edit; im a chocolate fiend, and my bars i consume have approx 5g protein, 26g sucrose, and 200-300 calries, which i may need, or is the sugar bad?

The Running Man · 14 Mar 2003 at 16:50

we have a george forman grill for healthy cooking purposes, is steak any good?

okay man, i have a bar tpday, cos i cant get hold of any tuna till at least tomorow, and ill be poicking up eggs for oads per day

The Running Man · 14 Mar 2003 at 18:34

cool, ill take a look at argos when i get home

Stick some pepper on it too

excellent, pepper is my favourite ingredient

i usually have 2-3 bowls of pasta, with just salt, loads of black pepper, and some sesame oil... mmm, tastless

im gonna go downtown to this market place, they do 20+ oz steaks for about 2-3 quid, pretty good quality too!!

The Running Man · 14 Mar 2003 at 20:25

im unsure too, i just try as many sets of pressups as i can until failure (u cant do any more)

and lift thiongs, general excercises and stuff...

The Running Man · 14 Mar 2003 at 20:36

i went out and bought some 24 eggs today (cost approx £2.50)

u can microwave em

http://www.eggs.ca/recipes/Show_recipe.asp?actionID=145&NumPage=3

preparation time 1 min!! nice

edit:

one other question i was gonna ask, how does smoking and stuff go with this diet, when i get the munchies is that okay to have some more egg, or is getting the munchies in the first place bad?

The Running Man · 14 Mar 2003 at 21:22

mm might be time for more eggs

oddjob

one piece of advice i could give to lose weight is:

refridgerate a pint of water and then drink it before u go to bed,

this should lose u quite a few pounds if u keep it up.

the science:

the water will bring down the temperature across your body, and it will have to burn off calories in order to generate enough energy to bring it up to the correct temperature, so by doing nothing but sleeping, u can help lose weight...

The Running Man · 14 Mar 2003 at 21:39

cool, just make sure u pack in ice cold water before u go to bed (im not sure if u do that) but u can try and see

The Running Man · 14 Mar 2003 at 23:36

i really can;t see the point in you increasing your food intake. Food without the pain will just get you fat.

until i get everythiong sorted out im not gonna force a diet that strict or protein full. i am just gonna increase my protein intake by a fair bit, and do a lot of work here, until i am a bit stronger, and i have a bit more stamina, then i will go to the gym, fully up my protein and then see.

I would burn more by walking to the end of my road and back

true, but how many miles can u walk whilst your sleep. (unless u sleep walk.)

The Running Man · 15 Mar 2003 at 15:35

im sure it does a lot more than that while your sleeping though.

The Running Man · 15 Mar 2003 at 18:28

cheers panzer, how much of an improvement did u see whilst doing that routine? ill definately be following that or something similar
thanks for point out how to do each one, cos im sure i was doing them wrong/didnt have a clue what squats was.

yea ill look for something to do some chinups on, from memory i could do 5-10 kinda proper ones, kuckles facing away, about the same knockles facing towards me too. i think.

is it worth doing the excersises at night, or best in the morning when i first get up, i can do either.

The Running Man · 16 Mar 2003 at 16:19

steve thats a lot of stuff to eat man!

i cant have the milk though, so ill have to find something else:/

well done though and keep it up!!

The Running Man · 17 Mar 2003 at 22:29

its the same here fella

okay a bit of progress so far:

i have upped my protein intake to approx 100g per day (through eating 4 eggs, 2-3 sittings of chicken, a 24g protein bar, and misc other foods

not much of a change noticed yet, apart from slight line definition in my forearm, and tiny bit at the top of my bicep cloest to my shoulder

tomorow i am going buy some proper foods and whey gain type stuff, so hopefully ill be able to increase my protein intake to 140-150 grams per day

(i weigh 140/150lb @ 6ft = skinny) so hopefully that level of intake will be sufficient

i am wondering as to whether or not to conduct the excersies every day, or every other day, as i remember my mate telling me he rested every other day to allow the muscle to grow back, and that if your constantly excersising it it wont grow back quick enough before u detroy it again

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