Old CPU question

[BigBoy]

What would be better? xp1800pally core or a duron 1400 applebread core? i have both but cannot decide what cpu would be better.

Any help please

 

[wizardmaxx]

Why dont you bench them and find out. (my moneys on the pally)

 

[ns400r]

The XP 1800 !

 

[Soul Rider]

Without doubt the XP1800.

 

[Yrkoon]

well i used to have the 1800xp and its a decent cpu compared to durons

 

[silversurfer]

pal i bet, never heard of applebread and it sounds silly

 

[Madwelsh]

1800 i'm thinking, my last 1800 is still doing my neighburs kid fine at uni..

 

[hp7909]

i have both but cannot decide what cpu would be better{snip}

Better at what, OCing? Because one is a Duron, the rival to Celeron & predecessor to the Sempron

 

[Justintime]

What would be better? xp1800pally core or a duron 1400 applebread core? i have both but cannot decide what cpu would be better.

Any help please

Well if i remember right the MHz speed of the 1800 is 1.53GHz? That alone along with the cache size increase makes the 1800 a better by far cpu.

 

[ghgh]

It depends on whether you want to overclock the processor IMO.

The XP will obviously be faster at stock speeds but the applebred can overclock way futher, especially if it's a t'bred b core - these can clock to 2.4-2.5GHz sometimes whereas the pally would probably top out at around 1800MHz max. Also there is a chance that the lost l2 cache on the applebred could be re-enabled to 256kb as most of these chips were downgraded tbred xp cores.

The applebred would also run much cooler thanks to it's lower default vcore of 1.5-1.6v depending on if its a dlt3c or dut3c.

 

[Nutbusta]

Were there any 1800 T'bred B's?

Try CPU-z to see if it's a T'bred B as this will clock easily to 2GHz with stock volts!

Very nice free upgrade and will stomp on the Duron.

 

[ghgh]

There were 1700+, 1800+, 2000+, 2100+, 2400+, 2600+ T'bred B's that ran on the 133MHz FSB, 266DDR iirc.

 

[MoD_Callidus]

The applbred duron's were really sweet lil chips. I bought a 1600 ( applebreds actually run at quoted speeds not PR rated ) and oc'd it to 2.4 on air ran wicked fast for a £30 cpu.

 

[ElectroBlaster]

Were there any 1800 T'bred B's?

Try CPU-z to see if it's a T'bred B as this will clock easily to 2GHz with stock volts!

Very nice free upgrade and will stomp on the Duron.

My sons pc has one

 

[Minstadave]

Were there any 1800 T'bred B's?

Try CPU-z to see if it's a T'bred B as this will clock easily to 2GHz with stock volts!

Very nice free upgrade and will stomp on the Duron.

He's already said the 1800 is a palomino core (the rubbish one before the thoroughbred).

 

[Nutbusta]

He's already said the 1800 is a palomino core (the rubbish one before the thoroughbred).

Doh'

My bad

 

[mrthingyx]

Palomino cores were shockingly bad overclockers...

IIRC, the Applebred is a cut-down version of the T'bred B core which means it will overclock like a trooper. The best versions of those cores would do 2.4GHz on stock volts and at a guess, the Applebred should be comparable.

Still, it's only working with 128kb of L2 cache and so it will have a bit of ground to make up, but as an overclocker it should do the business.

 

[ghgh]

Im pretty sure the Durons have 2x64KB L1 cache and 1x64KB L2 cache.

 

[silversurfer]

Werent the xtlc or some amazing stepping, pal? I had one of those clocked upto 2.5k

 

[BigBoy]

I have just unlocked the multie on both cpu's but my crappy motherboard (ECS K7VMM+) will not allow me to adjust anything regarding the cpu.

So I ran Super Pi 1M test on both cpus with same HSF and there was only a matter of seconds in it

Duron 1400mhz 2:26 @ 35oC
Athlon 1530mhz 2:20 @ 37oC

If i can find a cheep motherboard that will allow me to clock these two then i will but at the moment funds are too tight as i have just lost my job

Im going to stick with the XP1800 as its a few seconds faster but it dosent realy matter that much i only have to wait till after xmas an i will be getting a new system anyway (I Hope).