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On the fence, Ryzen 1700, or i7 7700k, not overclocking

Doobedoo said:
Almost the same as what cpu User Benchmark has.

1700 showing a 67.58 increase in multi-thread and a 33.8 decrease in single-thread. Bearing in mind a 5.0ghz is at the extreme end of over clocking and will probably need de-lidding to keep the temps down, not a realistic figure for the majority.
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5GHz is really very realistic for 7700K (and more than 57% could do that according to Silicon Lottery) as long as delidding has been done properly.
 
Doobedoo said:
Almost the same as what cpu User Benchmark has.

1700 showing a 67.58 increase in multi-thread and a 33.8 decrease in single-thread. Bearing in mind a 5.0ghz is at the extreme end of over clocking and will probably need de-lidding to keep the temps down, not a realistic figure for the majority.
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Yep and thats what all the main sites show as the difference.
 
Just looked at Silicon Lottery results posted on Reddit. Seems about right for Realbench stability.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5xybp7/silicon_lottery_ryzen_overclock_statistics/

Ryzen 7 1700
93% reach 3.8GHz @ 1.376V
70% reach 3.9GHz @ 1.408V
20% reach 4.0GHz @ 1.440V

Ryzen 7 1700X
100% reach 3.8GHz @ 1.360V
77% reach 3.9GHz @ 1.392V
33% reach 4.0GHz @ 1.424V

Ryzen 7 1800X
100% reach 3.8GHz (assumed)
97% reach 3.9GHz @ 1.376V
67% reach 4.0GHz @ 1.408V
20% reach 4.1GHz @ 1.440V
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voidshatter said:
5GHz is really very realistic for 7700K (and more than 57% could do that according to Silicon Lottery) as long as delidding has been done properly.
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Exactly they need de-lidding and bearing in mind the op stated he doesn't want to overclock, I'm not sure how relevant a 5.0ghz de-lidded cpu is in this discussion.

Like zornyon you seem to be a Intel fanboy hell bent on persuading everybody that Intel is the only cpu maker in existence.
 
muon said:
Just looked at Silicon Lottery results posted on Reddit. Seems about right for Realbench stability.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5xybp7/silicon_lottery_ryzen_overclock_statistics/
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Well that shows who is willing to hit the top voltages and not give a hell looking at them stats. Voltage won't do it all the time but some don't have the cooler and some just don't see a reason to push. You would think the 1800x would do it at lower voltage if chips were binned that much better. The 1800x seems to use more voltage than the 1700x to achieve it's clocks. I think it does come with higher voltage as it uses more power i think at stock.
 
TheRealDeal said:
Yea because the majority of people go and de-lidd there cpu.
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Doobedoo said:
Exactly they need de-lidding and bearing in mind the op stated he doesn't want to overclock, I'm not sure how relevant a 5.0ghz de-lidded cpu is in this discussion.

Like zornyon you seem to be a Intel fanboy hell bent on persuading everybody that Intel is the only cpu maker in existence.
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Delidding is very easy and safe given that nowadays it's just so convenient and cheap to buy the delidding tools. It's just one extra step of installing the rig.
 
Regardless of that post you were saying a second ago 4.0 isn't possible.

Also how much is a delidding tool? What happens to the warranty?
 
voidshatter said:
According to Silicon Lottery, 3.9GHz is almost the maximum stable frequency, while 7700K can do 5.2GHz. I'd say it's easier for 7700K to achieve 5GHz stable than 1700 to achieve 3.9GHz stable.
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Contradictory?

How many times do you want me to read it?
 
voidshatter said:
Nope. With delidding, watercooling is not compulsory. You can run a decent air-cooler and still do 5GHz stable.
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Just a reminder as you seem to be a little confused ;)

So I'm really on the fence between Ryzen and i7 for my next build. Looking at the 1700, and the 7700k.

Its mostly for gaming (PUBG, Rocket League, Overwatch, maybe Fortnite etc). However I'm a software developer (mostly web), so will have various IDE's, GIT / db clients open etc.

Also its unlikely I will be overclocking. I haven't OC'd since my AMD Athlon about 12+ years ago, as more concerned with system longevity, stability, etc. I want this to last for at least 5 years, but current system (i7 950) is 7 years old.
 
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