Only 4 wires going into ethernet jack....?

richm81 · 9 Aug 2024 at 17:06

Hi all
I have attached a picture of the wires going into the ethernet socket. Is it normal for there to only be 4 wires (2 orange and 2 blue) and could this be why I am only getting 2 to 4 mbps download speed most of the time? I am with BT in Mablethorpe in Lincolnshire so full fibre ready we certainly are not!!

Correction: I tried to add a picture but I can't add from phone and I don't have any of them other methods lol

Please help thank you

Thekwango · 9 Aug 2024 at 17:10

Go to imgur and upload the pic to there. You can they get a bb code to insert into the forum message which will show your pic.

richm81 · 9 Aug 2024 at 17:13

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Hopefully this works thank you

Cyber-Mav · 9 Aug 2024 at 17:13

yes i have had a ethernet cable that came with an old adsl modem that only had 2 pairs (4 wires) in it and it did not do gigabit speed.

richm81 · 9 Aug 2024 at 17:14

Cyber-Mav said:
yes i have had a ethernet cable that came with an old adsl modem that only had 2 pairs (4 wires) in it and it did not do gigabit speed.

But more than 4 mbps ? Lol I have seen it get to maximum 12 mbps...

Cyber-Mav · 9 Aug 2024 at 17:15

im sure it did 10meg or 100 and didnt go over 100. cousin was scratching his head too since it was a new cable. i had a close look at it and realised it only had 4 wires in it lol.

visibleman · 9 Aug 2024 at 17:16

Use an image host like imgur.com, you can then post the BBCode into here.

But if this is an ethernet socket (not telephone), then you should have 4 pairs (8 'wires' in total) correctly wired (ignore colours on the image below, they may differ to what you have) -

If you only have 2 pairs then you'll be limited to 100Mb/half duplex.

richm81 · 9 Aug 2024 at 17:18

Definitely only two pairs and if that picture worked you will see that only the two oranges are actually used. The two blue are just cut and go nowhere

visibleman · 9 Aug 2024 at 17:24

richm81 said:
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Hopefully this works thank you

Is that definitely an ethernet socket or, is it a telephone socket?
As 4-core cabling and a single used pair (2 'wires') would suggest telephone(/ADSL) to me :confused:

richm81 · 9 Aug 2024 at 17:27

visibleman said:
Is that definitely an ethernet socket or, is it a telephone socket?
As 4-core cabling and a single used pair (2 'wires') would suggest telephone(/ADSL) to me

I thought they were all called ethernet sockets!!
It is a BT Master socket 5C....

visibleman · 9 Aug 2024 at 17:42

richm81 said:
I thought they were all called ethernet sockets!!
It is a BT Master socket 5C....

It's been a while since i've touched ADSL/telephone sockets but from my very rusty memory, a single pair to a BT master/NTE5 socket is quite common.

If you're using an ADSL product, then there can be a few reasons to why you're seeing slow download speeds (cabling issues, line length etc) but chatting to your neighbours that are also ADSL users can determine if you actually have an issue or whether or not it's just because you're 'out in the sticks' as it were. Definitely get on to BT/your ISP if it is a fault though.

BT Wholesale checker and the Better Internet Dashboard can also help with knowing what's on offer to you.

richm81 · 9 Aug 2024 at 17:50

visibleman said:
It's been a while since i've touched ADSL/telephone sockets but from my very rusty memory, a single pair to a BT master/NTE5 socket is quite common.

If you're using an ADSL product, then there can be a few reasons to why you're seeing slow download speeds (cabling issues, line length etc) but chatting to your neighbours that are also ADSL users can determine if you actually have an issue or whether or not it's just because your 'out in the sticks' as it were. Definitely get on to BT/your ISP if it is a fault though.

BT Wholesale checker and the Better Internet Dashboard can also help with knowing what's on offer to you.

Thanks
I will have a word with them.
If full fibre does ever makes its way here I'll be the first customer!