Open University advice.

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DiamondMark said:
He is 21, and money will become his motivation because he likes nice things. I just wish he would hurry up and grow out of this useless stage.

That boy is becoming the bane of my life, he should do what his sister is doing, go to college learn to cut hair and il get her a shop.

But no not him, he would rather pick his nose round my office all day and get on my nerves :)
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If you can fund a hairdressing salon for your daughter could you possibly help him fund him to train to become a personal trainer?
 
OldCoals said:
If you can fund a hairdressing salon for your daughter could you possibly help him fund him to train to become a personal trainer?
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Yea i could but theres no money in it.

I refuse to just let him **** his life away in the gym then inherit it all, best he wises up and starts helping out.
 
DiamondMark said:
Yea i could but theres no money in it.

I refuse to just let him **** his life away in the gym then inherit it all, best he wises up and starts helping out.
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I see where you are coming but if his really isn't interested in working in the family business is it fair to keep going on at him to help.

I agree he can't do nothing at all, somehow you need to find out honestly what he does want to do, if it is not the family business you have to accept that, he would also have to accept he can't reap the benefits from it though if he isn't involved.

As for inheritance, that is only for you to decide.
 
OldCoals said:
I see where you are coming but if his really isn't interested in working in the family business is it fair to keep going on at him to help.

I agree he can't do nothing at all, somehow you need to find out honestly what he does want to do, if it is not the family business you have to accept that, he would also have to accept he can't reap the benefits from it though if he isn't involved.

As for inheritance, that is only for you to decide.
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Your right, i just wish i was calmer when i talk to him.
 
I'm six weeks away from finishing my OU degree. I think they are bloomin' brilliant.

They do, however, require far more self motivation and organisation than a trad degree; if you're son isn't serious about getting down to work on it, it will be a big waste of money.
 
OldCoals said:
How are OU degrees though of in the business world compared to traditional degree obtained by attending a university?
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Thats what i was wondering, also what do they write on the certificate? University of what?
 
I think it just says 'Open University' on the certificate - it's a well thought of qualification, so don't think any employer would look down on it (providing he gets a 2:1 or first).

Employers understand it takes commitment to dedicate yourself to years of part time study, and I believe the courses themselves are very good. I'd thought about doing one, but was offered voluntary redundancy from my last job, and my payoff enabled me to go to Uni full time so I took that option.

Skint now though .....
 
wozzizname said:
I think it just says 'Open University' on the certificate - it's a well thought of qualification, so don't think any employer would look down on it (providing he gets a 2:1 or first).

Employers understand it takes commitment to dedicate yourself to years of part time study, and I believe the courses themselves are very good. I'd thought about doing one, but was offered voluntary redundancy from my last job, and my payoff enabled me to go to Uni full time so I took that option.

Skint now though .....
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Did you get the degree? Thats the main thing.
 
I believe it states that it was attained from the open university.

They can be looked on comparably to other universities, obviously not going to be comparable to top 10... but by no means deemed bad. People respect the fact someone will have had to work very hard to achieve them in their own time whilst juggling work.

As will all degrees the subject matter is what counts. Do not let him do some useless degree such as film studies. Keep it within the confines of generally accepted subjects and you can't go too far wrong (i.e. Maths, Science, Languages, English, History, etc.)
 
OldCoals said:
How are OU degrees though of in the business world compared to traditional degree obtained by attending a university?
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Most businesses think highly of the OU. Not Cambridge/Oxbridge highly, but certainly up there. It's generally thought that as well as showing you've got degree level brains, it shows a higher level of dedication, organisation and self-discipline than other degrees.

But there remains a small number of people out there who think because it isn't from a "proper" university it isn't worth anything.

So, it probably averages out to about the same, since most people will think more of it, but a few less.
 
OU degrees are for people who don't have the time to do a full-time degree and have other comittments. They also require a great deal of self-discipline and motivation. As when you're at uni you have a timetable; you have lectures to go to, seminars to attend where you are set work and have to complete every week. The OU is nothing like this.

Do you really think your son is up for that? Untill he knows what he wants to do there's really not much you can do. It's not a great situation for yourself to be in.
 
TS7 said:
OU degrees are for people who don't have the time to do a full-time degree and have other comittments. They also require a great deal of self-discipline and motivation. As when you're at uni you have a timetable; you have lectures to go to, seminars to attend where you are set work and have to complete every week. The OU is nothing like this.

Do you really think your son is up for that? Untill he knows what he wants to do there's really not much you can do. It's not a great situation for yourself to be in.
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in ou you are set work every week and have a timetable to stick to, you also have tutorials to go to and residential schools, how is the OU nothing like the above things you mentioned :confused:
 
You're son is not a copy of you. You can only guide him. It is the way of things.

Me? I'd sack him and make him pay rent. Short, sharp, shock is good for youngsters but you cannot force him to be a copy of you!
 
Very worthwhile doing a OU course, I did a diploma and turned it into a full degree, so you can get a qualification on the way to achieving a BSc/BA. Need to put in the hours though. I found my course very interesting (I took database and progamming modules mainly) so it was quite easy to find motivation.
 
I would have much preferred an OU course because I hardly ever went to lectures, but I would have still needed access to the uni library, lab and studios to do my work in.

I still managed to do all the work myself and pass though, but I completely didnt have any motivation to do the dissertation so I finished without honors.

I'd actually find it a lot easier than going to lectures, my brain usually falls asleep and stops working within 5 minutes of listening to lectures.
 
My old man pushed me to get an education and then come work for him. I was 17 when I went to uni and wasn't really that motivated. Dad would constantly go on about the oppertunities that were infront of me and to get my head in the game and make the most of it.

I didn't appreciate it at the time but it worked out when I graduated. I didn't join the family business in the end. I wanted to make a career in the oil industry (as he had done previously) and I saw working for him as too easy an option.

He was (is?) a bit disappointed but proud that I've made good on my own. I may still take him up on his offer one day.

I guess my point is the constant pressure to get an education worked for me, had I been left to my own devices it would not have been pretty.
 
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