Openreach speedy up installing G.Fast pod

bulldog147 · 6 Aug 2017 at 16:50

It's appear that Openreach are now speedy up installing G.fast pod cabinets (pcp) not the fibre cabinets in many area's in UK.

It's rumour that Openreach to launch G.Fast service this autumn from many isp's. Time to tell sooner or later.

Ayahuasca · 6 Aug 2017 at 17:47

speedy up horsey

Ixel · 7 Aug 2017 at 11:34

Yeah I have one here too, question is whether I'll be close enough to even get g.fast. I'm around 500 meters away from my cabinet from what I can tell. I'd like faster upload speed more then faster download speed. Hopefully I'll find out when it goes live, hopefully in autumn.

TJM · 7 Aug 2017 at 14:55

Unfortunately a line length of 500m is well outside the current range of G.Fast.

JasonM · 7 Aug 2017 at 16:14

One of the problems with G.Fast, is using all the G.Fast bandwidth it will interfere with VDSL.

So G.Fast is great news, however it would be even faster if they could eliminate the cross talk from existing VDSL service.

bulldog147 · 7 Aug 2017 at 16:36

I agree with G.Fast would be no benefit to any lines over 500m away.

Sp00n · 7 Aug 2017 at 16:57

First I've heard of G.fast

mkelbie · 8 Aug 2017 at 14:40

I think it’s just a waste of money, people with FTTC will just get faster FTTC.

I only recently got FTTC on a new build estate, we had no lines at all for 6 months and Openreach ran copper to the plots even after a few asking to pay privately for fibre.

18 months later we got FTTC which I think was just a run from an existing cabinet that was 20M away. Virgin cab is even closer but OpenReach always have priority on the ducts I believe until a set number of years.

Copper has passed its sell by date now and Openreach shouldn’t be trying to squeeze more funding to milk an existing date infrastructure which requires paying a line rental for a phone I don’t even have.

Meddling-Monk · 9 Aug 2017 at 18:24

Would be great to get G.Fast here, but line length is dubious. It's between 200-400m away walk wise, but length wise could actually be longer, so I may not beneift. The other issue, is that BT haven't been great with handling issues on the line, and it now appears that it's been banded to 59mbps, when it could in theory handle at least 69mbps. And this all coming from a line that was originally at 82mbps originally. So all I'd be doing is paying for more, and if I do that, I might as well petition Hyperoptic for a line for gigbit net instead.

bulldog147 · 9 Aug 2017 at 19:09

Hyperoptic and City fibre are there to expand other area but I don't think it won't be in town area or rural area.

Armadillo · 9 Aug 2017 at 22:46

Whatever happend to BT putting the fibre node thing on the phone pole so it's closer to people. Did that idea get dropped?

Meatball · 10 Aug 2017 at 12:12

Armadillo said:
Whatever happend to BT putting the fibre node thing on the phone pole so it's closer to people. Did that idea get dropped?

Yep, it's cheaper for them to add the extension to the cabinets. We're not getting large scale FTTP for a long time yet, it's too much work with too much cost.

bulldog147 · 10 Aug 2017 at 12:18

FTTPoD will get cheaper once the whole UK got G.Fast & few FTTP because FTTC would be completed roll out. So, Openreach will thinking it time to give residential customers a much cheaper FTTPoD from G.Fast. But, I think it won't happen until G.Fast have completed rolled out as it take approx 8 years to do that.

Ayahuasca · 11 Aug 2017 at 09:09

My max rates are the following so it may be of small benefit to me or will implementing it further increase those rates?

MAX Rate
114392 kbps
33781 kbps

ChrisD. · 11 Aug 2017 at 09:37

mkelbie said:
paying a line rental for a phone I don’t even have.

Said line provides your broadband.

mkelbie · 11 Aug 2017 at 09:54

ChrisD. said:
Said line provides your broadband.

I understand that and that’s why it annoys me, virgin media don’t force you to have a phone line and neither did a previous ISP that delivered broadband wirelessly.

If BT was to run fibre to my door then I’m assuming I wouldn’t need a copper line, my point is if BT did this across the network I wouldn’t be the only customer taking the cheaper tariff that removes the phone line. This would obviously wipe out a massive chunk of recurring revenue so FTTC was step 1 of avoiding this, step 2 is now these pods to squeeze another few years out of the network.

ChrisD. · 11 Aug 2017 at 10:02

VM and wireless providors don't use the line to provide the service. If you have FTTP then you can pay BB only as the voice remains on the old circuit.

VM broadband only is far from cheap.

sparkymark75 · 11 Aug 2017 at 10:07

ChrisD. said:
VM and wireless providors don't use the line to provide the service. If you have FTTP then you can pay BB only as the voice remains on the old circuit.

VM broadband only is far from cheap.

I was paying £33pm for a 100Mb connection with Virgin. I'm now paying £17pm for a 1.6Mb connection. I thought Virgin was good value for money.

ChrisD. · 11 Aug 2017 at 10:12

sparkymark75 said:
I was paying £33pm for a 100Mb connection with Virgin. I'm now paying £17pm for a 1.6Mb connection. I thought Virgin was good value for money.

That's just luck of the draw, you can get upto 80 Mbit with BT/PlusNet etc for less than £33 if you look around, with a much better back end network and higher upload.

Swifty55 · 11 Aug 2017 at 10:30

ChrisD. said:
That's just luck of the draw, you can get upto 80 Mbit with BT/PlusNet etc for less than £33 if you look around, with a much better back end network and higher upload.

Only if you're one of the lucky ones that is capable of achieving such speeds with FTTC, otherwise VM do offer the best in terms of speeds and value.