Openreach speedy up installing G.Fast pod

But hardly at peak times. That's besides the point anyway in which you pay line rental to have the use of broadband, with or without a telephone. Because the broadband uses said line.
 
But hardly at peak times. That's besides the point anyway in which you pay line rental to have the use of broadband, with or without a telephone. Because the broadband uses said line.
Luck of the draw as you said, my VM connection is solid any time of the day, I get my full 200Mbps I pay for!

Regardless, the UK's broadband is such a shambles anyway!
 
My max rates are the following so it may be of small benefit to me or will implementing it further increase those rates?

MAX Rate

114392 kbps
33781 kbps
G.fast can go to over 300Mbps for customers very near to the cabinet, which you must be to see those rates, so you would definitely benefit.

Whether your cabinet will be upgraded to G.fast is another question. It will be deployed in urban areas where there are enough users within its effective range to make it commercially worthwhile.
 
I'm right in the heart of a town centre with a shopping centre, supermarket and surrounded by other housing so my hopes are high.
 
My max rates are the following so it may be of small benefit to me or will implementing it further increase those rates?

MAX Rate

114392 kbps
33781 kbps


G.fast deployment are not being delivered everywhere for every cabinets. It's up to Openreach decision to where to put G.Fast in suitable cabinet, not all of it.

I'm right in the heart of a town centre with a shopping centre, supermarket and surrounded by other housing so my hopes are high.

No, this is not the case. Some may get it, some may not get it. It's up to Openreach decision.
 
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No, this is not the case. Some may get it, some may not get it. It's up to Openreach decision.

I'm well aware it's an openreach decision, what do you mean it's not the case? I haven't stated it was just that as TJM has stated it's more likely to be deployed in urban areas with commercial benefit.
 
Why wouldn't cities and towns be more likely if it only really benefits short length lines? A quick look at their pilot scheme shows most areas they're trialling it are within cities and towns.
 
It seems to me like a G.fast pod on a busy cabinet with short lines (e.g. urban) would be an easy win for Openreach, considering there will likely be competition from Virgin Media in these locations. They aren't just going to sit around offering an 80Mbps FTTC service forever.
 
Only if you're one of the lucky ones that is capable of achieving such speeds with FTTC, otherwise VM do offer the best in terms of speeds and value.
VM isn't without it's issues. You have to be one of the lucky ones with VM to hope you are not in a congested area or oversubscribed area. And peak times get throttled etc unless you pay for one of the top packages. Not to mention their latency is not as great as any FTTC ISP providers. So where most of the people at home only use the interenet for facebook and catch up TV the extra speed would only benefit me for downloading games or streaming. But gaming needs nice low latency not great bandwidth unless streaming but that's more upload anyways.
For me VM is great for people who need the bandwidth but if the connection is primarily used for gaming then perhaps FTTC is better.
 
VM isn't without it's issues. You have to be one of the lucky ones with VM to hope you are not in a congested area or oversubscribed area. And peak times get throttled etc unless you pay for one of the top packages. Not to mention their latency is not as great as any FTTC ISP providers. So where most of the people at home only use the interenet for facebook and catch up TV the extra speed would only benefit me for downloading games or streaming. But gaming needs nice low latency not great bandwidth unless streaming but that's more upload anyways.
For me VM is great for people who need the bandwidth but if the connection is primarily used for gaming then perhaps FTTC is better.
As I stated in my reply to ChrisD, I agreed it's also the luck of the draw. Like I said, I receive my full 200Mbps at any time of the day. VM do not throttle the download speeds, only the upload speeds.

Latency is such a worthless argument in today's gaming... I play competitive games and having an FTTC connection will NOT make you any better. It is such a fallacy that people seem to believe having a 20Mbps 6ms ping FTTC connection will be better than a 200Mbps 20ms ping VM connection. Even the Hub 3 issues with the ping spikes isn't much of an issue (for me that is).
 
As I stated in my reply to ChrisD, I agreed it's also the luck of the draw. Like I said, I receive my full 200Mbps at any time of the day. VM do not throttle the download speeds, only the upload speeds.

Latency is such a worthless argument in today's gaming... I play competitive games and having an FTTC connection will NOT make you any better. It is such a fallacy that people seem to believe having a 20Mbps 6ms ping FTTC connection will be better than a 200Mbps 20ms ping VM connection. Even the Hub 3 issues with the ping spikes isn't much of an issue (for me that is).
I noticed going from ADSL2 to FTTC. Averaged 60+ pings in some games now down to half that and i certainly noticed the difference. Also i think you're painting VM with much better latency than it is. Most thinkbroadband graphs ive seen put my off VM because of their inconsistent latency. I wont even go there with the Hub3 looks horrendous.
You must be one of the lucky ones with VM if your getting sub 20 pings and consistent bandwith.
 
I noticed going from ADSL2 to FTTC. Averaged 60+ pings in some games now down to half that and i certainly noticed the difference. Also i think you're painting VM with much better latency than it is. Most thinkbroadband graphs ive seen put my off VM because of their inconsistent latency. I wont even go there with the Hub3 looks horrendous.
You must be one of the lucky ones with VM if your getting sub 20 pings and consistent bandwith.
If you've noticed a major change in your ping from ADSL2/+ to FTTC then something was at fault, maybe you was never on a fast path profile especially if you received 60+ms... My argument was between an FTTC connection with 6ms and a VM connection with 20ms, please read correctly?

I'm not painting VM with anything, it's a fact... Saying the Hub3 looks horrendous is your opinion, I can name several modems that look even worse, but if that's what you need to pick at in your argument then you clearly have no idea.
 
If you've noticed a major change in your ping from ADSL2/+ to FTTC then something was at fault, maybe you was never on a fast path profile especially if you received 60+ms... My argument was between an FTTC connection with 6ms and a VM connection with 20ms, please read correctly?

I'm not painting VM with anything, it's a fact... Saying the Hub3 looks horrendous is your opinion, I can name several modems that look even worse, but if that's what you need to pick at in your argument then you clearly have no idea.
Tell that to all the people who have had nothing but end of issues with Hub 3 and massive latency spikes making gaming pretty much not a option for them online. Lagging them out and disconnecting them. Only need to go look on the forums lol it's an opinion many share. VM prioritise bandwidth not latency.
 
Impressive how they've gone from separate modems to having it all integrated into a box the same size as their existing hubs so quickly. The phone socket on the rear looks like they could be serious about removing dial tone from phone lines at last and carrying it all over IP.
 
I have a phone extension upstairs in the office where currently I have my modem, I was warned it might not be as fast (it’s the same) but would I still have this option with this new service if it’s made available?
 
I don't see why not - another 10m of quality cabling on the end of an existing line of whatever age won't make a difference as long as it's installed properly. You'll have to be prepared to test from the test socket but that's hardly the end of the world.
 
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