Opera 10 Alpha 1

Really wanna try it, sounds interesting but i really can't be assed with the hassling right now :p It won't work perfect (obviously) and i just feel like swapping back and forth between 9.6 which has been working great for ages now. I went right through the whole 9.5 beta and although it turned out great i was sick of websites working on and off and having to swap around browsers. Which is obviously to be expected really!
 
It installed separately without asking, so you should still have 9.6.

It's worth noting it still fails the Acid3 though - the animation is nothing like smooth.
 
And do something about their woeful torrent manager too.

I'm finding Youtube a right pain the rear at the moment. I don't know if it's anything to do with Flash 10 or Opera though... :(
 
Aod said:
really? i like the opera download manager
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Iwouldn't say there is anything wrong with it. It works well. Could just do with more advanced features I think to compete with FF3 and DownloadThemAll and so on. :)

Greenlizard0 said:
And do something about their woeful torrent manager too.

I'm finding Youtube a right pain the rear at the moment. I don't know if it's anything to do with Flash 10 or Opera though... :(
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Yes their torrent feature is pretty poor. Lets Opera down a lot I think. What's wrong with YouTube? Working fine for me on a Vista x64 install. :)
 
MarcLister said:
Yes their torrent feature is pretty poor. Lets Opera down a lot I think. What's wrong with YouTube? Working fine for me on a Vista x64 install. :)
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I'm not entirely sure, when I play normal square crappy quality vids I don't seem to suffer from anything.

It's when I try to play anything with a bit more res if you know what I mean. The first part of the video plays fine, and then it just starts to stall, then the browser as a whole stops working (white-out in Vista 64).

It then either starts working again or I have to stop the process and restart it.
 
You don't get a "TruePlayer loading" or some other message do you? I had that on XP for a while.

All I can suggest is removing all traces of Flash on your system, not just the current version but any previous versions and perhaps backing up your Opera profile and trying a reinstall?

This link might help. :)
 
MarcLister said:
You don't get a "TruePlayer loading" or some other message do you? I had that on XP for a while.
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I didn't.

MarcLister said:
All I can suggest is removing all traces of Flash on your system, not just the current version but any previous versions and perhaps backing up your Opera profile and trying a reinstall?
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Hmm..I have just literally gone onto 9.62, and the problem existed on the previous installation as well (I think it's why I went searching for the latest one).

MarcLister said:
This link might help. :)
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Cheers, found this link on Flash's website. Going to give it a whirl now. :)
 
tolien said:
It installed separately without asking, so you should still have 9.6.

It's worth noting it still fails the Acid3 though - the animation is nothing like smooth.
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Oh i know i could install it seperately but then switching between the alpha and stable is a hassle (isn't much one i know) that i just can't be bothered with again right now for a short while. But i do love how opera really do bang out the alpha/betas!

They need to remove the sodding torrent app, its next to useless and a waste of space. Download manager is pretty good in my eyes, but it could be better. I just rely on FDM anyway, like i rely on utorrent for torrents.

The one thing i wish most of all if choices on install! I wouldnt bother installing the torrent app and mail/newsgroups app for starters. I just really don't need them at all. I know theyre not loaded unless i actually use them, but still whats the point?
 
LeperousDust said:
They need to remove the sodding torrent app, its next to useless and a waste of space. Download manager is pretty good in my eyes, but it could be better. I just rely on FDM anyway, like i rely on utorrent for torrents.
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If they improved it then I might be tempted to use it. But then I keep shutting Opera down when not using it. Since uTorrent is only for torrents I wouldn't shut it down when I wasn't using it. Whereas I subconsciously shut Opera down so it wouldn't make the perfect torrent app anyway.

LeperousDust said:
The one thing i wish most of all if choices on install! I wouldnt bother installing the torrent app and mail/newsgroups app for starters. I just really don't need them at all. I know theyre not loaded unless i actually use them, but still whats the point?
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Yeah. The email bit is rubbish. From what I can see it only works well with one account. Any more than one and it seems to want to mash them all into one big area. I want to have visibly different and separate areas for each email account like say Thunderbird did. I never could work out how to get Opera to split my accounts up for me.

And agree on the installation options. FF does it to some extent I think. Why can't Opera? :( Perhaps they could make the installer offer options and have it report back to them, with user's permission of course, what is being installed and what isn't. Then with the statistics they could see that the torrent app is being left out and try to find out why and improve it etc. :)
 
LeperousDust said:
Oh i know i could install it seperately but then switching between the alpha and stable is a hassle (isn't much one i know) that i just can't be bothered with again right now for a short while.
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It didn't ask if I wanted it separately or as an upgrade, so it's not so much you could install it separately as you're getting it separately whether you like it or not :p

MarcLister said:
FF does it to some extent I think.
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Sort of, it just don't come with torrent or mail/news apps, unless you install them as extensions.
 
tolien said:
Sort of, it just don't come with torrent or mail/news apps, unless you install them as extensions.
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I didn't mean a direct Opera to FF comparison. :p

I meant that FF does have the custom install where you can choose some options such as the DOM inspector. Opera doesn't have any kind of customised install features.
 
That's mostly gone now. The DOMi was spun out to an extension, and the only other option on custom install was the crash reporter.
 
I'd agree that those parts should be separate options somehow (whether as something like a Firefox extension, option at install-time, or something else), but it's been argued Opera should do automagic updates and the like for years.

The Norwegians are too busy making knights of penguins to listen though. :p
 
tolien said:
I'd agree that those parts should be separate options somehow (whether as something like a Firefox extension, option at install-time, or something else), but it's been argued Opera should do automagic updates and the like for years.
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Yeah that would be cool. Downloadable extensions for torrent and email. :)

tolien said:
The Norwegians are too busy making knights of penguins to listen though. :p
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:D Arise Sir Pingu! :p
 
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