OPPO ceases making new products

A sad indication of the general direction of the home cinema market. Feels like Fujitsu and Pioneer plasma all over again.

What future then for those manufacturers using Oppo chassis' as the basis for their own product? Arcam, Cambridge Audio, any others?
 
Excuse the noob in the room, but in what way?


Picture and sound And overall features. Its got 7.1 output and a dedicated 2 channel output. It's a really good cd spinner and supports hi-res music.

A Google search will provide info on a comparison
 
Weren’t we talking about Blu-ray playback? (Hence the “thinking of getting a 4K player)?

X1 does 7.1 Atmos and the visual quality is virtually identical (I.e you’d have to pause them side by side and get a magnifying glass out to spot the kind of differences we’re referring to).

Audio wise it can also playback FLAC so unsure where the real limitation is.
 
What future then for those manufacturers using Oppo chassis' as the basis for their own product? Arcam, Cambridge Audio, any others?
(I had not realised meridian now used OPPO transports) , prior to that they used pihilips (508/506) and donor machines are difficult to find now, so the prudent oppo owner should probably put one aside, to use post warranty.

X1 does 7.1 Atmos and the visual quality is virtually identical
from the earlier discussion, as well as ub900 chroma upscale, X1 has non defeatable hevc noise reduction, also noisier/less-robust transport.
the ub300 without the 2 channel ub900 dac has been sub £200 too, so not so much extra.
ub900 does not playback hevc (non-disc) media, which is a con.
 
Picture and sound
Surely picture and sound are exactly the same as any other player*? Digital streams to be transported to an AV Receiver and TV?

A Google search will provide info on a comparison
I couldn't find anything tangible, hence the reason for asking.

*Xbox One X excluded - as apparently had some kind of RGB conversion issue that gave different colours to reference in a comparison I found.
 
Still using an old Sony blu ray player as all I have is 1080p rips and blu rays.
4K players are stupidly expensive.
Bummer though for future tech
 
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I think the real problem for companies like OPPO is the difference between average and high end products has become smaller and smaller in recent years squeasing them into a tiny niche of people who actually care about the tiny marginal improvements at the top of the market. We live in a time when we are ridiculously spoiled by the price and quality of technology but sadly the mass market has settled for ok rather than outstanding hence low bitrate MP3's etc
 
I think the real problem for companies like OPPO is the difference between average and high end products has become smaller and smaller in recent years squeasing them into a tiny niche of people who actually care about the tiny marginal improvements at the top of the market. We live in a time when we are ridiculously spoiled by the price and quality of technology but sadly the mass market has settled for ok rather than outstanding hence low bitrate MP3's etc


Totally agree. Negligible difference at a huge price bump means companies like Oppo unless they moved with the times would be doomed.
 
so why exactly are they stopping ?
I see for now, they are continuing with phones, didn't know they made them .. but if they have a good dac ....

The take up of 4k could be accelerated if folks realised how a local 40-60Mb/s source looked, versus skimmed (maybe) 15Mb/s streamed media, but in the UK and USA will need big infrastructure improvement (what about korea or japan though), probably helps maintain the cinemas too.
If the disc price drops and the 4k players also polyvalent with good streaming capability would have thought could see a resurgence, like vinyl ?
can't they manufacture more cheaply in bigger volumes.
 
I think the real problem for companies like OPPO is the difference between average and high end products has become smaller and smaller in recent years squeasing them into a tiny niche of people who actually care about the tiny marginal improvements at the top of the market. We live in a time when we are ridiculously spoiled by the price and quality of technology but sadly the mass market has settled for ok rather than outstanding hence low bitrate MP3's etc
I think that the mass market has always settled for "good enough" rather than great. The evidence is everywhere, and not just in the tech sector. It's all over the place. Food, beverage, appliances, clothing, travel.

You're right that we are spoiled by the lower real-terms costs of consumer electronics and by the average performance levels they achieve. At the same time though I also see a trend of accelerating product turnover; people would rather spend a big chunk on the promise of what a new device can deliver rather than extend the life and improve the performance of what they already own. It still amazes me how resistant folk are to the idea of buying and using a test disc to set up their own system. Talk about shooting oneself in the foot.

This is a big problem within the AV industry in general. None of the high street retailers are leading on quality. It's all about price. That seems to be the only story they have to tell.

Magazines and online reviews show graphs that depict before and after results from calibration, yet the retailers do little more than unbox a TV, stick it on the shelf and put it in store demo mode. Where's the wow factor? Where's the proof that the retailer knows what they're doing? The retail sector moans about competition from the web, but does nothing to make use of the advantages afforded by a physical presence. Consequently the average customer never sees a TV picture at its best. All they see is the over-contrasty, over-colourful and over-sharpened version presented by the "who can shout loudest" preset. That then becomes the limiting factor, so the difference between a £100 BD player and a £300/£500/£1100 one can't be seen.

It's not like there's no other examples of industries doing it right. Can you imagine the car industry selling in the same way? It's almost as if the AV industry has a death wish.

The sad thing is that Oppo repositioned their pricing significantly. The last generation Oppo BD players were over £1,000, but the new 4K Oppo was almost half the price at £650. That's bloody good value for what the player can do.
 
Bluray players appeal to an ever decreasing market of people who buy physical media.

It would be interesting to see the sales figures of these kind of products.

I do appreciate nice things. My TV is a Dx902b which is well regarded. My surround sound is a decent Dali 5.1 setup. My amp is a decent yamaha.

However it comes as no surprise that making high end niche products is an unsustainable business model. The market isn't there any more.

Contrary to what enthusiasts say I'd honestly be surprised if they can see a difference between an Xbox player and a 900 quid Panasonic player from a comfortable viewing distance.

As someone has said the difference is becoming so small justifying the premiums is kinda bonkers.
 
Bluray players appeal to an ever decreasing market of people who buy physical media.

It would be interesting to see the sales figures of these kind of products.

I do appreciate nice things. My TV is a Dx902b which is well regarded. My surround sound is a decent Dali 5.1 setup. My amp is a decent yamaha.

However it comes as no surprise that making high end niche products is an unsustainable business model. The market isn't there any more.

Contrary to what enthusiasts say I'd honestly be surprised if they can see a difference between an Xbox player and a 900 quid Panasonic player from a comfortable viewing distance.

As someone has said the difference is becoming so small justifying the premiums is kinda bonkers.


The Xbox 1 X can't decode the colours right when playing a 4K HDR disc. The UB900 tramples all over it.
And if you can't see the difference, then you have never used a UB900 ;)
 
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