**** Original Starcraft 2 Thread ****

Milkybk said:
But they're not. You're just an idiot.

You complained saying it's impossible to beat mass Mutas. If that's right then you are saying the game is imba.

Then you say that pro's basically have no say in what's imba and what's not. However they actually can because at their level small imbalances in a game make a difference so some choose to use them to their advantage. Hence more Terrans at the moment.

I hope I made that easy enough for you to understand. :rolleyes:
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could you be any ruder seriously, how about you stop the pathetic insults then i might actually bother taking your opinion on board?
and i never said it was impossible to beat mass mutas are said they were OP, and im not the only one with that opinion ,an opinion im entitled to.


WriteThatD0wn said:
My issue is that regardless of if I am favored or not favored during the loading screen I always only receive points for as if I was favored.
Is anyone aware of a bug relating to the point systems?
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both players can actually see that they are favoured in the same match up, its a weird system done by all the hidden jiggerpockery. so even tho it says you might be favoured your opp might be seeing the same for them.
 
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Worthy said:
Just battered some Zerg guy as Protoss. Walling in with two gateways and a single zealot in the middle is so damn effective against zerlings that it's almost untrue. Then I sent four DTs into his base and they decimated it. :D

Replay for anyone interested:

http://www.vanillahaven.com/worthyvszerg.zip
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Theres quite a few times where youve been doing something else and havent queued a probe up. You even got supply blocked at 1 point.

Oh and make good use of Chrono Boost!
 
Houd said:
Oh. Nice one!

Just downloaded a few replays of you vs Indie like you recommended. Hopefully I can pick up some tips from OCUK's resident Zerg guru :)
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No don't. I ******* hate speedlings, they give me damn nightmares arrgh.
 
starmanwarz said:
I'm getting worse every single day instead of getting better!This game is starting to **** me off lol.
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You got to remember as you get better, it puts you against better players. I have days in diamond where I lose 12 straight after having gone on a 8 game winning streak the day before.
 
starmanwarz said:
I'm getting worse every single day instead of getting better!This game is starting to **** me off lol.
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this is normal, its jsut a learning Curve, take the time to watch replays of yourself losign, find out why and try and improve... you'll probs fail at first, but eventually you'll crack it!

Everybody has days like this.. i have weeks sometimes ^^
just keep at it, your getting better each time you lose!
 
Milkybk said:
a lot, yes.

"you cant beat mass mutas with marines and thors anymore , the box trick does infact make them pretty indestructable once theyv hit mass."

That's quoted from you. Mutas are very weak and get annihilated by a half decent player with a good army composition. They aren't OP in anyway. They're used for early/mid game harass at best.

If you're getting beaten by mass Mutas (which you must be seeing as you're whining) then you obviously a) don't scout well b) have a poor army composition and c) don't bother microing at all. At least that how it appears.

You're entitled to an opinion but when it's to do with a game specific mechanics designed to be balanced then you're probably wrong. Tbh you don't have a leg to stand on and are just complaining because a meany Zerg beat you badly with some **** cheese move.
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hmmm pretty much !

Mind you if a player was weak against my muta harass, i'd abuse it and build moar ;)

very rarely go above 12 though.
 
Indie said:
hmmm pretty much !

Mind you if a player was weak against my muta harass, i'd abuse it and build moar ;)

very rarely go above 12 though.
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I noticed you have shied away from mutas in our games.

Although I've shied away from 4 warp-gate all-ins :) So win-win :D
 
iamtheoneneo said:
both players can actually see that they are favoured in the same match up, its a weird system done by all the hidden jiggerpockery. so even tho it says you might be favoured your opp might be seeing the same for them.
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Indie said:
Hey dude, im not aware of anything like that, to be hoenst i never look at favoured or anything, or even the points i get after a game, lol. I just tend to zone out when i game.

It might be worth checking the Blizzard support forums though, their normally pretty good with things like that

Sorry i couldn't be more help!
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Thanks guys I suspect it will be the behind the scenes pixie magic blizzard employ ;)

To be honest I think after following I think it was Kar's advice about just getting the 3rax push build working well I will start to progress up the ladders.

So far most people in Bronze haven't been able to handle the initial push and I haven't needed to move to mid game!

All good advice on here guys keep it up:D
 
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Just won two more TvT matches, I think I'm starting to get the hang of this now :D

I have to say thank you to Indie, for his awesome marine/seige/viking opening replay, it works perfectly.

Actually Indie, do you have any replays of TvP and TvZ?
Zergs seem to always get map control against me, and protoss just worry me slightly..
 
mistercrabb said:
Just won two more TvT matches, I think I'm starting to get the hang of this now :D

I have to say thank you to Indie, for his awesome marine/seige/viking opening replay, it works perfectly.

Actually Indie, do you have any replays of TvP and TvZ?
Zergs seem to always get map control against me, and protoss just worry me slightly..
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Glad the TvT build is helping :)

I havn't actually got anything decent for TvP/TvZ, not really much of a Terran player, i'll ask Kar for some TvP's and get the replays.

If im honest i don't know opening build orders/tactics for TvP, i normally 3rax marauder into some sort of mad expand and ghost tactic lol. I don't really have any idea.

TvZ i normally go 1 rax at ramp, 1 supply and 1 fax at ramp to prevent bling busts. Reactor on your factory to pump out some hellions for early harass.
add another rax after this and start to push them.

I'll play some more Terran for you and see how I fair :)
 
WriteThatD0wn said:
Thanks guys I suspect it will be the behind the scenes pixie magic blizzard employ ;)

To be honest I think after following I think it was Kar's advice about just getting the 3rax push build working well I will start to progress up the ladders.

So far most people in Bronze haven't been able to handle the initial push and I haven't needed to move to mid game!

All good advice on here guys keep it up:D
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In bronze, just make sure you scout them early, they tend to cheese loads. If they have nothing building (T/P) their probably cheesing, if thats the case make sure their not in your base, and get some defences up, then continue with your build. you should win most games like that.
 
Man I've been stuck at the top of silver (rank 1 or 2 in league) for so long now. Can't get up to gold as every time I beat a few gold players (presume this is the ladder system testing me) I then go and lose to a few lower ranked silvers.

Strange thing is, 9 times out of 10 it tells me on the loading screen its an even match, but then in the points after I might get eg 13/14 pts (excluding bonus pts) which I thought meant they were favoured. Isn't 10 the right no. of points to get for a win in a completely even game?
 
ive just had my first victory TVT mass MMM spam with a couple of siege tanks and vikings thrown into the mix. pretty nooby perhaps but seeing as i am. im happy :D
 
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