**** Original Starcraft 2 Thread ****

H2F Scott said:
Streaming me vs Indie: www.justin.tv/scottyyy

Let me know what the quality is like and if it's lagging for you please. :)
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Haha I thought you were going to post live on OcUk there at the end of the game you just had. :(

Quality wise, the frame rate isn't that good, but the picture quality is quite good for a stream. Maybe you could try tweaking it a bit so you have more frames if that’s possible?
 
Mailman86 said:
Haha I thought you were going to post live on OcUk there at the end of the game you just had. :(

Quality wise, the frame rate isn't that good, but the picture quality is quite good for a stream. Maybe you could try tweaking it a bit so you have more frames if that’s possible?
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Quality is pretty average but the framerate seems solid (if low :)).
 
Nodiggidy123 said:
1. when is it a good time to expand and start expanding.
2. at what point should i start to scout my opponent
3. can i have too many scvs,
4. when to stop a harass?
5. do u continually spam reinforcements into there base?
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1. Expand when you attack
2. Immediately - gives you info required to build units
3. Yes, SCVs take up Supply
4. Always maintain pressure - can be hard to macro and micro at the same time
5. No coz they die 1 by 1, form your reinforcements into a second attack if your first attack goes okay then use it
 
billysielu said:
...5. No coz they die 1 by 1, form your reinforcements into a second attack if your first attack goes okay then use it
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Unless you're protoss and have a pylon just outside their base, so you can continually reinforce your attack or flank the enemy with 10 zealots you just warped in behind their army :p
 
Nodiggidy123 said:
1. when is it a good time to expand and start expanding.
2. at what point should i start to scout my opponent
3. can i have too many scvs,
4. when to stop a harass?
5. do u continually spam reinforcements into there base?
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1. Expand either when you move out to attack, or when your opponent expands. Taking the initiative with a fast expansion is something that you will get a feel for when you can pull off.

2. Scout usually after your first production building.

3. Aim for about 20 svcs + 6 on gas for each base you have (but no more than 70 total).

4. Dont worry about harassing to start with, you will beat the vast majority of players just by having solid macro until you hit plat or diamond.

5. A good trick is to set your rally points to a unit in your army (preferably one that wont die quickly :D).
 
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Some interesting games that i've played the last few days:

Super hard build for zerg to deal with, its only failed me once so far! (the 2nd rep i think).

http://www.mediafire.com/file/kl76helq1e0ce12/vsretCannon2.SC2Replay

http://www.mediafire.com/file/pmk48sui4c4uiaf/vsretCannon3.SC2Replay

http://www.mediafire.com/file/fz8rrhxh3n5jav2/vsRayman.SC2Replay

http://www.mediafire.com/file/5c0a4yhzfzs13er/vsLarsCannon.SC2Replay

Pretty standard PvT.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/5woaj3j2s3k54f1/vsGnargSteppes.SC2Replay

Ninja DT build strikes again \o/

http://www.mediafire.com/file/66i0fsnaz3dfm30/vsGnargDT.SC2Replay

Bit of a variation on PvZ fast expanding:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/k571o3658gc821x/15NexVSret.SC2Replay

If anyone watches these please let me know if you see anything that i could improve upon :)
 
Nodiggidy123 said:
im struggling to understand if theres any other strategies rather than just a rush. just seems i check out what units the enemy have, built a counter and rush them. when is it a good time to expand and start expanding. cos its not necessary against ai so what about mp?


im obviously missing the point so would anyone point me to some guides that help me get a good understanding.

i understand walling etc its just things like at what point should i start to scout my opponent, cam i have to many scvs, etc. when to stop a harass? do u continually spam reinforcements into there base?
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What race do you play as? i presume Terran?

I normally go for an expand when im on the attack, or have spare money or even a fast expand ^^ but thats a Zerg player, zerg always need an extra 1-2 expansions against the other races. As Terran, its quite a good idea to go for your expo as you push out to attack, When you have pushed back their attack or when your opponent expands (so you keep up with economy

When i play Terran i normally scout with the SCV that has built my first supply depot. that way its at about the right time for you to see what sort of tech tree their going down, and build the correct counter for it :)

For each expansion you want anything between 15-20 SCV's on the minerals, and 3 SCV's on each gas extractor. Bare in mind, keep producing SCV's throughout the game. that way, when you do expand, you can transfer SCV's from an exhausted mineral area, into your new one. Very little economy downtime.

As a Zerg i never stop harassing, or at least keep it up as much as possible. Terran seem to be different, most of them stay in their bases untill they have a formidable force to come out with. In lower leagues, harassment doesnt really play a big part. As Rob has said, you're better off playing a macro game and make sure your always producing units and using up all your resources. even when your attacking :)

When i play Terran i tend to spam reinforcements to the outside of my base, or to a safe area just outside of theirs when im attacking. that way you can either backup your exisiting forces, OR you have a defensive force incase of a counter
 
Alex74 said:
Would love to see as many people from this thread joining in the OcUK Starcraft tournament: clicky!!!

It'll be a good chance to play some competitive matches with other OcUK players. We have people from all leagues entered, so don't be shy :D
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I'm not being shy, I'm just away all next week on a course with work. :(
 
Worthy said:
I'm not being shy, I'm just away all next week on a course with work. :(
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doesnt all have to happen on one day, no excuse sign up! or ill release the hounds!!! :p

I deffo cant play much next week or that weekend either, think im having my game(s) during the week after
 
So I played some games last night. I am deffo getting better. won a few games.

I played one game which bloody annoyed me though, was against a terran player. The game went of for a while and I finally got a good push onto his base. I kept harassing him and stopped him from expanding. Meanwhile I had 2 bases working on my 3rd. Anyways it gets to the end I go for his last base and he loads his remaning scvs and lifts off and goes. I was screwed at this point because he had some AA so my viks all died :( anyways I though well hes got to surrender he is screwed.
Nope he carried on so I carry on expanding and building forces. Mean while I send a vik scouting the map. All of a sudden the vik gets shot down. So I scan where it got shot down and the ******* build a force on a island to the top left with scvs mining and just a crap load I mean CRAP LOAD of AA turrents. The only way onto that island is by flight.

The game was just stalemate because I could not do anything. He built about 10 viks and just hid them behind his base and AA. So everytime I got a battlecrusier in range to blow up a AA the 10 viks swarmed him and then retreated. The guy had no intent on beating me other than just making the game last as long as humanly possible.
I had the rest of the map covered in bases and a huge army. In the end I gave up the game went on for almost 2 hours.
 
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Adsta said:
So I played some games last night. I am deffo getting better. won a few games.

I played one game which bloody annoyed me though, was against a terran player. The game went of for a while and I finally got a good push onto his base. I kept harassing him and stopped him from expanding. Meanwhile I had 2 bases working on my 3rd. Anyways it gets to the end I go for his last base and he loads his remaning scvs and lifts off and goes. I was screwed at this point because he had some AA so my viks all died :( anyways I though well hes got to surrender he is screwed.
Nope he carried on so I carry on expanding and building forces. Mean while I send a vik scouting the map. All of a sudden the vik gets shot down. So I scan where it got shot down and the ******* build a force on a island to the top left with scvs mining and just a crap load I mean CRAP LOAD of AA turrents. The only way onto that island is by flight.

The game was just stalemate because I could not do anything. He built about 10 viks and just hid them behind his base and AA. So everytime I got a battlecrusier in range to blow up a AA the 10 viks swarmed him and then restreated. The guy had no intent on beating me other than just making the game last as long as humanly possible.
I had the rest of the map covered in bases and a huge army. In the end I gave up the game went on for almost 2 hours.
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Thats where you should mix Battlecruiser and Valks, maybe a couple of drops in there too.

If you float a couple of buildings into his base, all the turrets will focus fire on the buildings, at that point you send in a couple of dropships loaded with whatever you want.. Marines/Marauder. then move in your BC's, Valks will be useless in the air because you have marines and BC. and they will be even more hopeless if he grounds them :)
 
Indie said:
Thats where you should mix Battlecruiser and Valks, maybe a couple of drops in there too.

If you float a couple of buildings into his base, all the turrets will focus fire on the buildings, at that point you send in a couple of dropships loaded with whatever you want.. Marines/Marauder. then move in your BC's, Valks will be useless in the air because you have marines and BC. and they will be even more hopeless if he grounds them :)
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ahhh I honestly did not think of flying buildings in.... lol

I will keep that in mind next time.

Oh also I was playing one of my friends who plays protoss. He kept caining me with dark templars. Because I hadnt played may protoss (let alone dark templar rushs) I just got wiped because I could not attack his units.

If I encounter a enemy looking like they are going with dark templars should I just pump out sensor towers asap before they rush and then get Ravens once I got my starport up for attacks and such ?
 
Adsta said:
ahhh I honestly did not think of flying buildings in.... lol

I will keep that in mind next time.

Oh also I was playing one of my friends who plays protoss. He kept caining me with dark templars. Because I hadnt played may protoss (let alone dark templar rushs) I just got wiped because I could not attack his units.

If I encounter a enemy looking like they are going with dark templars should I just pump out sensor towers asap before they rush and then get Ravens once I got my starport up for attacks and such ?
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I'd just get a turret or something in key areas, base entance, mineral line etc.

Then save up your Orbital Command energy so you can scan when you move out of your base :)

Get a raven if he continues to make them throughout the game though :)
 
Adsta said:
ahhh I honestly did not think of flying buildings in.... lol

I will keep that in mind next time.

Oh also I was playing one of my friends who plays protoss. He kept caining me with dark templars. Because I hadnt played may protoss (let alone dark templar rushs) I just got wiped because I could not attack his units.

If I encounter a enemy looking like they are going with dark templars should I just pump out sensor towers asap before they rush and then get Ravens once I got my starport up for attacks and such ?
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A few missile turrets (sensor towers arent detectors) and a raven or two should do you nicely for detection if you're being consistently attacked with DTs. Ravens are amazing units, especially for dealing with stalkers, so they'll be useful throughout the game.
 
ahhh ok thanks for the info :) I thought that sensor towers were dectectors.... lol no wonder that wasnt working :rolleyes:
 
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