**** Original Starcraft 2 Thread ****

Nerusy said:
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/761331#blog

I hope these statistics will stop the PvT imbalance debates as it looks, if anything, protoss are a bit op.

Next patch is concentrated on buffing zergs.
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Son... i r dissapoint.

Nerusy, please take your ego elsewhere. Fair enough if you fancy talking about stuff that's relevant, but if your bringing your arrogance into it just to satisfy your ever-growing ego... you'll expect to get the reply like the one above.

Its still easier for Terran early game. Which was the original discussion iirc. Not overall game statistics. If you want to talk about the general game, yes, the match up is the most balanced of all. Bar Mirror.

EDIT: Kar, I've entered the Tournament, Lets hope we get through so i can come and meet you in Laaandaaan!
 
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I can quote so many statistics about terran being too strong, but I dont think PvT is unbalanced :/.

Diamond is the only league that matters balance wise and your post shows it being pretty damn balanced.

edit: also those posts between you and minato were deleted pretty damn quick lol.
 
My ego? How about your ego Indie, was your reply necessary or did you want to insult me

What did I say, I said here are the statistics, if anything it shows Protoss op ( I don't personally think so) and I said zergs are getting buffs.

I find you reply very arrogant.

Edit. Really Indie I always knew you were such self-involved person, they way you behave thats why I quit the game, when we talked you were very arrogant towards me, when we played you were not friendly.

I suggest you get off your high horse
 
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Nerusy said:
My ego? How about your ego Indie, was your reply necessary or did you want to insult me

What did I say, I said here are the statistics, if anything it shows Protoss op ( I don't personally think so) and I said zergs are getting buffs.

I find you reply very arrogant.
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Ok fella...

The last game we played together, I applied early pressure, stuck a bunker on your ramp (which tbh isn't my fault you didn't scout it, but hell we all make daft mistakes like that, trust me I know^^), you rage-quit and left battle.net. then I see a post on here shortly after saying that I hate you and I think Terran are imbalanced and a note saying that we will not be hearing from you again... which, we haven't! untill now.

So you mean to tell me, you have stayed away from the forum for weeks. Making your first returning post here to be about a discussion that you so _maturely_ ended... and its NOT to do with some mad ego trip? :/

I'm not insulting you, I just don't quite understand why you'd make a post like that, other than fulfilling your own needs. Things like that just aren't in my nature, so that's possibly why I don't understand. *shrugs*

On the other hand, I quite enjoy the fact that Zerg are getting a buff. Although im not sure about the Supply for Barracks, seems strange.
I do however like the factory required for Reaper Speed.
So thanks for posting those, as I probably wouldn't of seen them. :)

EDIT: Its not that I wasn't friendly at all, I'm always up for testing shiz out and having a giggle... it was more the fact that I just didn't agree with your opening build, and you just didn't like that. Sorry dude, but if I don't agree with something I will say so... If you continued doing that build then it would have been bad for your game.

for example, when me and Kar played a billion games, I told him not to do stuff.. or to do stuff!, because if he carried on, he just wouldn't become better. If that kind of thing is self-involved then I'm sorry for being that way. In Future I won't offer such advice.
 
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TMP said:
Cool I work just up the road from this, think I may pop in throughout the day :)

Don't quite feel ready to play SC2 competitively yet, I'm still having withdrawal from WC3
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Sign your backside up :p If your there already then why not eh!

Whats your bnet ID? I don't think I have you added!
My realID is in my trust if you'd prefer :)
 
Indie said:
Ok fella...

The last game we played together, I applied early pressure, stuck a bunker on your ramp (which tbh isn't my fault you didn't scout it, but hell we all make daft mistakes like that, trust me I know^^), you rage-quit and left battle.net. then I see a post on here shortly after saying that I hate you and I think Terran are imbalanced and a note saying that we will not be hearing from you again... which, we haven't! untill now.

So you mean to tell me, you have stayed away from the forum for weeks. Making your first returning post here to be about a discussion that you so _maturely_ ended... and its NOT to do with some mad ego trip? :/

I'm not insulting you, I just don't quite understand why you'd make a post like that, other than fulfilling your own needs. Things like that just aren't in my nature, so that's possibly why I don't understand. *shrugs*

On the other hand, I quite enjoy the fact that Zerg are getting a buff. Although im not sure about the Supply for Barracks, seems strange.
I do however like the factory required for Reaper Speed.
So thanks for posting those, as I probably wouldn't of seen them. :)

EDIT: Its not that I wasn't friendly at all, I'm always up for testing shiz out and having a giggle... it was more the fact that I just didn't agree with your opening build, and you just didn't like that. Sorry dude, but if I don't agree with something I will say so... If you continued doing that build then it would have been bad for your game.

for example, when me and Kar played a billion games, I told him not to do stuff.. or to do stuff!, because if he carried on, he just wouldn't become better. If that kind of thing is self-involved then I'm sorry for being that way. In Future I won't offer such advice.
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Thats better, instead of starting off with insulting.

All right lets talk every time I win a game I would hear that it was because of imbalance, when I begin with gl hf toss players reply something on the lines of "go fu** yourself" including zergs. Now it didn't bother me that much, random people afterall.

Now memebers of this forums which I enjoyed playing against specially kar, starting posting that terran is imbalanced, its easier to play and all that. Now when I see something that is not true, I say so.

Thats how our discussion with Scott and Kar started. I never had a discussion with you about early terran advantage.

It was me Scott Kar talking about overall pvt.

Keyboard is bugged, I'll restart computer and finish off this

Edit, restarted, continuing.

Playing a tourney match mintao lost and went to greath lengths to say not was not a good game, find he didn't say gg but then he just had to make the replay name and add to that "I am not going to say gg" and he blame balance while we all agree including you it was his poor play.

Now I get aboused for playing this race a lot, and I do all in my power to "educate" those who abuse me so that they wouldn't think that pvt is imbalanced, thats the only point, so that people would stop hating on terran. Just like minato here does.

Now when I asked you to help me out I was expecting for you to sit at your base, get a large army thats it, then you started harassing so i though hey its good tests the build a little.

My point was do this build how I can, show it to kar so that he understands it and sees if it has some potential and the perfect it, but kar never got to see what I meant, I tried for the last time to play with you but bah bunker, so we'd have to restart the game and do it over just to show what basic idea, it was never "lets test this build to the extreme".

Conclusion: I do it because I am tired of people mass crusade against terran and a lot of misconceptions about terran and balance.

Edit: Now minato I presume because of his tender age has too much testetorone and he doesn't think that well, so could you please englithed him, as he would trust your word, that PvT is balanced, as I know you think so too so that he would stop acting up.
 
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Nerusy said:
Snippppeeerrr!
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I didn't start with any insults in the first place, just stating a point.

Yes you were discussing general PvT, and i said i don't have much clue about it as i rarely play it. The discussion then moved on to early game pressure. I input that its easier for Terran. Thats all. You asked me on battle.net to play some games to test your build, so I did. My point was to say that early Terran pressure was easier and your build is very weak against it, which I think is true.
No Terran would sit in their base with a large army when they have that sort of advantage with harassment.

I'm sorry if you wanted me to sit back and let you tech but if your testing a build then you want to know the weaknesses surely? I found one which I predicted, and I exploited it in the first game, so I kept doing it. *ziiing* you learnt that you need a Stalker early on for the build to be more effective, and so on... that's how build testing goes.

I don't know why you get abused for playing Terran, but if you do, just ignore them dude, don't let them wind you up. just beat the crap out of them instead, its much more satisfying than retaliating.

I think this "mass crusade" on Terran is in your head. I've played 30+ games as Terran now, not come across one person to slate the race, even in the lower leagues where their more likely to do it. You think I would have in over 30 games.. just one!

Now.. my point which has totally been ignored is why be immature and rage-quit in a friendly build testing match..?
Also, why come back here with an ego trip? I genuinely don't understand... Quite offended tbh.
 
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Edit: Now minato I presume because of his tender age has too much testetorone and he doesn't think that well, so could you please englithed him, as he would trust your word, that PvT is balanced, as I know you think so too so that he would stop acting up.
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Lets just keep the slanging to somewhere other than the forum yes? I think your both overdosed with testosterone, so just quit it guys, no point.
PvT is the most balanced match up in the game so far, but still not perfect.. but! who's expecting it to be this close to release?... does anybody remember SC1 release imbalances? you would have had kittens!

platypus said:
Well I'm having a good run of it so far in silver. Played 6 and won 6.
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Good work dude, you'll be in gold before you know it ;)

H2F Scott said:
lol at calling Indie arrogant. He's the least arrogant person I've met in SC2.
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thanks babe.. now get back to the kitchen! *slap* :p
 
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