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Definitely approve of the guaranteed overclock on this bundle - the generally-unlucky types amongst us are not fans of the silicon lottery ^^;

Any chance we'll be seeing some Skylakes in the speed binned processors section, for folks who have half the bits already? :)
 
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Goes to bump up to 4.7ghz @ 1.36v to test now Ive seen upto 1.4v is ok aslong as temps are good...

I compared against my settings for MSI board but not all the same or worded different. Ive screenshotted by settings, does anyone know where they go?

Thanks,
Sean
 
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For a few quid more you could get this:

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=BU-062-OG&groupid=2833&catid=2512&subcat=3087

Why have 4 cores when you can have 6 for a similar price?

Many would prefer 4 faster cores when they are gaming with 1-2 GPU's, as no games get more FPS with more than 4 cores currently.

Why have 2 useless cores doing nothing and sucking electricity, producing extra heat, for no performance advantage in games?

Of course for those with 4 GPU's, then X99 with a 5930k/5960X with 40 PCI-E lanes is needed, but for 99% of us it's not.

Just mentioning again this is just for gaming - if you're encoding video/streaming, X99 is superior.
 
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Many would prefer 4 faster cores when they are gaming with 1-2 GPU's, as no games get more FPS with more than 4 cores currently.

Why have 2 useless cores doing nothing and sucking electricity, producing extra heat, for no performance advantage in games?

Of course for those with 4 GPU's, then X99 with a 5930k/5960X with 40 PCI-E lanes is needed, but for 99% of us it's not.

Just mentioning again this is just for gaming - if you're encoding video/streaming, X99 is superior.

6 cores will always beat 4 and with the X99 you could drop in the 8 core chips further on.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18691348

Seems a no brainer to me for the same price.
 
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Great bundle. Skylake is such an easy platform to overclock and great performance to boot.


Many would prefer 4 faster cores when they are gaming with 1-2 GPU's, as no games get more FPS with more than 4 cores currently.

Why have 2 useless cores doing nothing and sucking electricity, producing extra heat, for no performance advantage in games?

Of course for those with 4 GPU's, then X99 with a 5930k/5960X with 40 PCI-E lanes is needed, but for 99% of us it's not.

Just mentioning again this is just for gaming - if you're encoding video/streaming, X99 is superior.

One reason despite available lanes for MGPU - is learning curve. Skylake is a far easier platform on DDR4 for users to jump to - assuming you are overclocking


How you guys getting 4.5gz with 1.2v, i must be doing something wrong i cnt even get 4.2 stable with 1.2

Depends how stability is tested, for Prime 28.7 you will need (as much as 50mv -100mv) considerably higher voltage with AVX 2.0 routines. This is down to how you feel you want to test stability. Realbench is a great stability test on Skylake, I wouldn't push Prime on anyone for this platform
 
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Many would prefer 4 faster cores when they are gaming with 1-2 GPU's, as no games get more FPS with more than 4 cores currently.

Why have 2 useless cores doing nothing and sucking electricity, producing extra heat, for no performance advantage in games?

Of course for those with 4 GPU's, then X99 with a 5930k/5960X with 40 PCI-E lanes is needed, but for 99% of us it's not.

Just mentioning again this is just for gaming - if you're encoding video/streaming, X99 is superior.

If it was me, the 5820K would be my choice mostly because of the following:

1: 2 More cores (4 threads total)
2: The Haswell architecture maxes out most games already well below 4ghz
3: The Skylake has less PCIE lanes than Haswell-E (I know they have more this time but its still less unless I missed something)
4: Your going to get more distance in games in the future even with lets say 10% less on a clock to clock basis with the extra cores.
5: More room for expansion on the motherboard (X99 vs Z170)

That is my opinion of course!
 
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^^ Andy has a good point and this is what I showed when I first tested Skylake. I recomended 5820K.

But some guys do want 2%-3% faster in single thread and gaming. They also want low power.

This product is for those end users.

This Bundle is approved as I fully tested its compatability and guarenteed an overclock at a competative price point.

There is a lot of difference between 8Pack approved and 8Pack product.
 
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If it was me, the 5820K would be my choice mostly because of the following:

1: 2 More cores (4 threads total)
2: The Haswell architecture maxes out most games already well below 4ghz
3: The Skylake has less PCIE lanes than Haswell-E (I know they have more this time but its still less unless I missed something)
4: Your going to get more distance in games in the future even with lets say 10% less on a clock to clock basis with the extra cores.
5: More room for expansion on the motherboard (X99 vs Z170)

That is my opinion of course!

1. 2 more cores are pointless if they are not used. Modern games do not show any benefit going from 4 to 6 Intel cores, none at all.
2. No it doesn't. There are plenty of CPU bound games - WoW (and other MMO's), Arma3 to name just two.
3. A 5820k can't run two GPU's in x16 x16 mode, only a 5930k or 5960x can, so Skylake is identical to a 5920k for 2 GPU uses in terms of PCI-E lanes. Skylake can also support a 4X PCI-E SSD from the Z170 chipset, thanks to DMI 3.0.
4. Do you really believe game developers will dedicate resources to make games perform better on 6+core intel CPU's, when less than 1% of the PC gamer userbase has a 6+ core CPU? The answer is no - they develop for the mainstream, not for the enthusiast.
5. This is only a benefit if the user is planning on 4 way crossfire/SLI, in which case he needs a 5930k or a 5960x to actually run 4 GPU's well, as a 5820k doesn't have enough lanes to do so (neither does Skylake).
 
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1. 2 more cores are pointless if they are not used. Modern games do not show any benefit going from 4 to 6 Intel cores, none at all.
2. No it doesn't. There are plenty of CPU bound games - WoW (and other MMO's), Arma3 to name just two.
3. A 5820k can't run two GPU's in x16 x16 mode, only a 5930k or 5960x can, so Skylake is identical to a 5920k for 2 GPU uses in terms of PCI-E lanes. Skylake can also support a 4X PCI-E SSD from the Z170 chipset, thanks to DMI 3.0.
4. Do you really believe game developers will dedicate resources to make games perform better on 6+core intel CPU's, when less than 1% of the PC gamer userbase has a 6+ core CPU? The answer is no - they develop for the mainstream, not for the enthusiast.
5. This is only a benefit if the user is planning on 4 way crossfire/SLI, in which case he needs a 5930k or a 5960x to actually run 4 GPU's well, as a 5820k doesn't have enough lanes to do so (neither does Skylake).

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. 8 Pack agrees with my opinion :)
 
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But some guys do want 2%-3% faster in single thread and gaming. They also want low power.

This product is for those end users.

This Bundle is approved as I fully tested its compatability and guarenteed an overclock at a competative price point.

Ahem. So shouldn't that reasoning also work to justify an i5-6600K version of this same bundle then? (presumably just by swapping the CPU and nothing else).
 
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