'Outrage as police officers armed with huge guns pose with children at Christmas market'

Seriously there are people still arguing that the police shouldn't be there or their guns would be ineffective.......cloud cookoo land or you think computer games are real

Wheres asim now to defend having them in the police stations as that would be the best option - so they could arrive 10 minutes later after the truck had done its business.

I'd have more armed police out and about if I was in charge
 
I remember seeing a lot of stuff on my Facebook feed about this last week, from SJW types. I thought at the time it was necessary, but after yet another Islamist terror attack it seems self-evident. Thing is, a lot of people have their head in the sand. They could probably have a relative die in something like this and somehow still blame Donald Trump or Katie Hopkins or something. It's basically the Jeremy Corbyn mentality: let's pretend there's no problem and it will go away.
 
kissenger said:
I remember seeing a lot of stuff on my Facebook feed about this last week, from SJW types. I thought at the time it was necessary, but after yet another Islamist terror attack it seems self-evident. Thing is, a lot of people have their head in the sand. They could probably have a relative die in something like this and somehow still blame Donald Trump or Katie Hopkins or something. It's basically the Jeremy Corbyn mentality: let's pretend there's no problem and it will go away.
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People are quick to forget apeasement doesn't work.
 
It's not all about intervention, one benefit of deploying armed officers to these kind of events is to give the general public the re-assurance that the police and government take their protection seriously. Is it a false sense of security? In the event of a terrorist attack it's probably partially false yes, in that if a terrorist does attack in spite of the police presence there are likely to be casualties, though I do believe they are a deterrent and could also limit the success of an attack. Having said that if this kind of intervention in the short to medium term is required to provide people with the re-assurance they need to be able to live their lives then so be it.
 
FortuitousFluke said:
It's not all about intervention, one benefit of deploying armed officers to these kind of events is to give the general public the re-assurance that the police and government take their protection seriously. Is it a false sense of security? In the event of a terrorist attack it's probably partially false yes, in that if a terrorist does attack in spite of the police presence there are likely to be casualties, though I do believe they are a deterrent and could also limit the success of an attack. Having said that if this kind of intervention in the short to medium term is required to provide people with the re-assurance they need to be able to live their lives then so be it.
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It can be argued that the money spent on these officers "guarding" an event could be better used elsewhere, like intelligence services in run-down communities or suspected families.

However, theres no end to this without doing what the Gestapo or Stasi did.
 
MikeTheNative said:
I think he followed the suspect not actually chased, but it does beg the question why the guy thought he had done it.
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My thought would go to brown dude running away from the scene sharpish.

Probably because he was afraid of being mistaken for the attacker...
 
Coming from the Daily Mail

But they are saying the guy on the run was arrested three times this year due to the Police suspecting a terror plot but he was let go everytime :eek:

Edit: Also a link between the terror network behind the Tunisia attack in 2015
 
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I don't understand, given the climate of fear that we have right now, why it is so offensive for the people protecting the public from a real threat, are vilified. what are the police supposed to do? hide on roof tops? ffs they are here to make a statement to the people that want to hurt us.

the police are damned if they do and damned if they don't and it's playing into the hands of the enemy imo
 
My oldest is 9 and we talk about the news, she gave £20 of her own money to kids Alleppo, its called raising adults who give a **** not because you tell them to but because they have an understanding of the world and can think for themselves...armed police sadly are needed and if my kids wanted to pose with them i would be happy to let them.
 
We don't need the militarization of police (which is where this is heading) just take back control of the border and vet asylum seekers better. The only way armed police are going to prevent or lessen attacks such as this is if they're on every single street corner with roadblocks and that's not a country I want to live in. How would they have stopped the German market attack? they'd either have been his first victims along with some poor kid and his mum getting their picture taken or he'd have gone 5mins down the road and killed some other people.
 
mmj_uk said:
We don't need the militarization of police (which is where this is heading)
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How is having a small percentage of police officers trained to use firearms any sign of militarisation?

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they'd either have been his first victims along with some poor kid and his mum getting their picture taken or he'd have gone 5mins down the road and killed some other people.
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And the first people expected to arrive and deal with that situation will be firearms officers.
 
AFOs are ROUTINELY deployed to large scale public events even without a terrorism angle. Would some of you prefer there were zero AFOs available?

I swear you cannot win, if an active shooter tipped up to the same event and no AFOs were available you would all be crying the opposite "WHERE WERE THE ARMED POLICE?!"

The UK is one of the few, only? Jurisdictions left whose Police are not routinely armed, yet "OMG militarization!" fears are at the forefront of some peoples minds?
 
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