Outsmarting an 11 year old

t31os · 3 Jan 2007 at 22:03

Thought this was a thread for help with shutting down a PC at set times, its now turned into an episode of Trisha........

stickroad · 3 Jan 2007 at 22:10

Oh lol well im in the wrong sorry, i thought it was just about getting a kid of the computer

lol, my bad

caeteez · 3 Jan 2007 at 22:17

Are her parents Nazi's by any chance?

Vertigo · 3 Jan 2007 at 22:25

AJUK said:
An 11 year old should not be allowed to use a computer unsupervised at all. However, give her the benefit of the doubt; get her parents to do their job and tell her that she cannot use it after the prescribed time otherwise it will be removed. Technology doesn't always have the answer.

He speaks the truth, if she's blatantly disobeying the parents they have a bigger problem that just the computer.

Also, an 11 year old shouldn't have a computer in their room IMO.

SiriusB · 3 Jan 2007 at 22:37

Vertigo1 said:
He speaks the truth, if she's blatantly disobeying the parents they have a bigger problem that just the computer.

Also, an 11 year old shouldn't have a computer in their room IMO.

Why should there be a problem if an 11 year old sneaks onto the computer? I used to always play on my Playstation when I was told I wasn't allowed. Same with watching TV past my bedtime

If they really don't want her using it after a certain time then the easiest solution is to just take the power lead. If she wants to watch DVDs past this time get a DVD player. Although it makes no sense why she is unable to use the PC after 8 but can watch DVDs...

SiriusB

Gopher_By_Fende · 3 Jan 2007 at 22:42

Thanks for the advice, i'll give the program a go furnace, otherwise I'll try the scheduled task method.

None of the removing power methods is suitable, she uses the computer as her DVD player and is allowed to watch films after she is kicked off her games, hence the second logon.

And now a special response from my friends -

As for the other people posting, who obviously think they can teach supernanny a thing or two, commenting on my parenting techniques. They are obviously not parents or otherwise have the type of bullied stepford kids that will end up in a clock tower with a high powered rifle before their 30th birthday.
Every precaution possible has been taken to ensure that use is safe (and i dont remember saying it was linked to the net)

:eek:

Me again

Anyhoo, cheers for the help guys, i think i have what i need now, i'm off to calm down the Commandant

Gopher

the-void · 3 Jan 2007 at 22:47

Gopher_By_Fende said:
As for the other people posting, who obviously think they can teach supernanny a thing or two, commenting on my parenting techniques. They are obviously not parents or otherwise have the type of bullied stepford kids that will end up in a clock tower with a high powered rifle before their 30th birthday.
Every precaution possible has been taken to ensure that use is safe (and i dont remember saying it was linked to the net)

Amen to that.

Rebelius · 3 Jan 2007 at 22:54

couldn't she get round most of these solutions by changing the system clock?

OzyOly · 3 Jan 2007 at 22:59

Rebelius said:
couldn't she get round most of these solutions by changing the system clock?

Lock the bios down. Leave her admin account alone.

Create a second admin account and add that batch file to the scheduler of her account.

Now boot up in safemode and alter the ownership of that file. Make it so her account can run it but not delete or alter it.

Boot up normally.

Now that task scheduler can not be changed. As for the clock settings, there is a way to change these so she can't access them.

FirebarUK · 3 Jan 2007 at 23:05

Also, an 11 year old shouldn't have a computer in their room IMO.

Not wrong, even a TV imo.

bakes0310 · 3 Jan 2007 at 23:07

FirebarUK said:
Not wrong, even a TV imo.

FergCu · 3 Jan 2007 at 23:41

don't think i saw it mentioned, but i use a great little program called poweroff:
http://users.pandora.be/jbosman/applications.html

It can be set to run in the background, prevent it being cancelled, give a warning message, set to log-off, etc, as well as shut-down, and it all hes a nice little interface.

Hope it helps,

Ferg.

bledd · 4 Jan 2007 at 00:09

psshutdown

awesome tool (like shutdown and logoff by ms, but has them and more)

easy to use, and can add it to startup so it logs off at a specific time or set it as a scheduled task

rickyt · 4 Jan 2007 at 00:26

Thats the problem with kids nowadays ,they've got soft parents .No way should a 11 year old have a Pc in his/her room .............WITH INTERNET ACCESS. PC in a bedroom is not so bad if it's only for games and do to homework as long as there's no internet connection .Sounds as if the parents should go back to school.

Sorry , misread the post . Looks as if there is no internet access ..how wise

I read the "user to log off at a set time" and thought she had access to the
net . Looks as if I should go back to school .

Vertigo · 4 Jan 2007 at 00:28

SiriusB said:
Why should there be a problem if an 11 year old sneaks onto the computer? I used to always play on my Playstation when I was told I wasn't allowed. Same with watching TV past my bedtime

Actually I worded that incorrectly, it was specifically the Internet I was talking about and I concede that at no point did the OP mention that the computer was online.

If it is then my comment stands, otherwise I don't see any more harm in having an offline computer than I do a console or TV.

The disobediance comment stands however.

Energize · 4 Jan 2007 at 05:59

AJUK said:
An 11 year old should not be allowed to use a computer unsupervised at all. However, give her the benefit of the doubt; get her parents to do their job and tell her that she cannot use it after the prescribed time otherwise it will be removed. Technology doesn't always have the answer.

Assuming it doesn't have the internet, then it's no different to having a games console.

fumbles · 4 Jan 2007 at 06:35

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/...all/proddocs/en-us/net_accounts.mspx?mfr=true

> net accounts /forcelogoff:60

That will log her off after one hour.... there is another way to do this, (come back in 4 hours)

AJUK · 4 Jan 2007 at 07:38

Gopher_By_Fende said:
And now a special response from my friends -

As for the other people posting, who obviously think they can teach supernanny a thing or two, commenting on my parenting techniques. They are obviously not parents or otherwise have the type of bullied stepford kids that will end up in a clock tower with a high powered rifle before their 30th birthday.

For fear of going too off topic:

Liberal tosh, no wonder the kids of today are so out of control and the country is a crime ridden cesspool. :rolleyes:

the-void · 4 Jan 2007 at 08:01

AJUK said:
For fear of going too off topic:

Liberal tosh, no wonder the kids of today are so out of control and the country is a crime ridden cesspool.

The country is a crime ridden cesspool because an 11 year old has a DVD player in her room? :rolleyes:

LMAO

More likely because the media glorifies the vaporous media celebrity with no talent as semi-gods. Not to mention the gross indifference between those who have and those who have not and a society that is influenced by all business's to have it all and pay later. :mad:

AJUK, wait until you have kids yourself before you comment on other peoples parenting skills. I imagine you will not be the expert you consider yourself to be. It's easy to be an armchair commentator, its a different story out there on the pitch.

The last time I checked these parents ARE trying to limit what their children do and if you are not going to help them then please keep your comments for a more appropriate thread or maybe start one yourself if it bugs you so much.

Vertigo · 4 Jan 2007 at 09:10

the-void said:
The country is a crime ridden cesspool because an 11 year old has a DVD player in her room? LMAO

No the country is a crime ridden cesspool because an 11 year old has no respect for he parents and is blatantly disobeying their instructions to stop using the computer after 8/9pm.

Kids these days grow up with no respect for authority. They start by disobeying their parents then move on to disobeying the law so yes, I do see this child's disobedience as the seed of a potentially very big problem in the future.