P4 478 Extreme Ed cooling requirements

[kumar101]

Currently using P4 2.8 Northwood clocked to 3.4 in a Antec Sonata Case with the Case fan set to minimum using a Zalman 7000 Copper Cooler. Very Stable never had any problems.

Can pickup 3.4 Extreme Edition at reasonable prices these days. Question is will I need to increase the speed of the Case fan to provide extra cooling or can I get away with it?

PC is silent at the moment don’t want any increase in noise by upgrading anyone used the EE advise?

 

[lay-z-boy]

Why would you want to pick up an EE?

you will see little benefit from its extra cache. It's better to save up for an upgrade that will have better results like a gpu, ram or mobo + cpu upgrade.

 

[easyrider]

Why would you want to pick up an EE?

you will see little benefit from its extra cache. It's better to save up for an upgrade that will have better results like a gpu, ram or mobo + cpu upgrade.

What has that got to do with the OP?

 

[easyrider]

Currently using P4 2.8 Northwood clocked to 3.4 in a Antec Sonata Case with the Case fan set to minimum using a Zalman 7000 Copper Cooler. Very Stable never had any problems.

Can pickup 3.4 Extreme Edition at reasonable prices these days. Question is will I need to increase the speed of the Case fan to provide extra cooling or can I get away with it?

PC is silent at the moment don’t want any increase in noise by upgrading anyone used the EE advise?

no

 

[lay-z-boy]

What has that got to do with the OP?

You see, now YOU are trolling, don't follow me around in threads just to disagree.

I stated that its not worth picking one up at any expense as there would be very little to gain and it would be better to put the money to somewhere else.

And why did you use a post just to say no?

Could have used the one that you had a go at me in.

 

[easyrider]

You see, now YOU are trolling, don't follow me around in threads just to disagree.

I stated that its not worth picking one up at any expense as there would be very little to gain and it would be better to put the money to somewhere else.

And why did you use a post just to say no?

Could have used the one that you had a go at me in.

This is not GFX.

Just answer the OP.

The Op has already stated that he can pick an EE up at a reasonable price.

And then you go and tell him to upgrade his whole PC.

Good thinking Batman....Not

 

[kumar101]

A new C2D setup would mean buying new MB, CPU, PSU, GFX etc …….expensive!

I can pickup a EE for £100 on that famous auction site. I don’t play games mostly Video/Audio encoding and general PC use.

My only concern is whether I would need to sacrifice silence by having to apply the extra cooling.

 

[Justintime]

Intel Core 2 Duo E2140 "LGA775 Conroe" 1.60GHz (800FSB) - Retail £47.99
(£56.39) £47.99
(£56.39)
Asrock 4CoreDual-VSTA (Socket 775) PCI-Express/AGP DDR2 Motherboard
£103.38 inc VAT

Tack on maybe a 8ish for shipping and you'll toast that EE

A new C2D setup would mean buying new MB, CPU, PSU, GFX etc

PSU good enough for an EE - Will run a C2D easily
Board has AGP
Board supports DDR1

plus u get a bit of o'cin if desired.

 

[kumar101]

Intel Core 2 Duo E2140 "LGA775 Conroe" 1.60GHz (800FSB) - Retail £47.99
(£56.39) £47.99
(£56.39)
Asrock 4CoreDual-VSTA (Socket 775) PCI-Express/AGP DDR2 Motherboard
£103.38 inc VAT

Tack on maybe a 8ish for shipping and you'll toast that EE



PSU good enough for an EE - Will run a C2D easily
Board has AGP
Board supports DDR1

plus u get a bit of o'cin if desired.

Asrock board you have suggested is naff don’t like all this mix of DRR/DDR2, AGP/PCI-E. Personally I think youre asking for trouble going down that route.

No disrespect but I prefer to buy good quality components.

Ive just put together a C2D for a friend and its the exact opposite spec to the one you have given me. P35 DQ6, E6600, 8600GT, Crucial-8500, Corsair PSU, Antec 182. The PC flies but needs good airflow so have to turn up the Fans to keep it cool.

I tested P35 setup on my Sonata Case and it struggled its missing the extra 12V rail and only has one fan which I had to turn it on full blast to keep it cool. If the EE means turning the Fan up full I don’t want it!

I currently have a ASUS P4C800-E with 2GB Corsair DDR, X-Fi Elite Pro, Nvidia6600, Antec Sonata Case. Hardware acceleration the Sound Card and Video Card takes care of Multimedia requirements.

I can afford to buy a new PC but my usage does not justify the expense and would be much noisier. Upgrading to EE would allow quicker decoding. I can buy it for £100 and sell mine for £25 so its just a £75 upgrade. This would suffice my current needs until low Power Consumption Penryns and Desktop ‘Santa Rosa’ MB show up and review it then.

 

[Justintime]

Asrock board you have suggested is naff don’t like all this mix of DRR/DDR2, AGP/PCI-E. Personally I think youre asking for trouble going down that route.

No disrespect but I prefer to buy good quality components.

.

Have built 5 rigs with them so far with no issues. Don't personally use Asrock for my own but since you're on a Budget.. Spending 100 on an extra 2mb of Cache, limited overclockability since you're looking to keep it quiet and possibly a lower FSB if your 2.8 @ 3.4 is a C chip.. and virtually unnoticeable performance increases..well it makes less sense than to buy a cheap C2D chip and Cheap board which will run rings around it and be a lot quieter even with a fair overclock. to asnwer your question, having had 2 EEs at 3.4 you may need to up the cooling a little yes, though not by much and you might get away with present speeds. They tend to get toasty under load especially with 2mb extra and a 3.4GHz clock.

 

[lay-z-boy]

It's better to save up for an upgrade that will have better results like a gpu, ram or mobo + cpu upgrade.

And then you go and tell him to upgrade his whole PC.

Good thinking Batman....Not

Good reading batman!

 

[kumar101]

to asnwer your question, having had 2 EEs at 3.4 you may need to up the cooling a little yes, though not by much and you might get away with present speeds. They tend to get toasty under load especially with 2mb extra and a 3.4GHz clock.

At last! Thought we would never get there. This is what wanted to know, thanks.

 

[easyrider]

At last! Thought we would never get there. This is what wanted to know, thanks.

Check post 4.

I answered your question

 

[kumar101]

Check post 4.

I answered your question

Ya you did. Its just the thread went off-track a bit with the other posters.

Partly its my fault. Its really to do reaching a compromise in noise containment vs performance. I should have really posted this some quiet PC forum but was too lazy to go through all the hassle of joining.

 

[Justintime]

Well i guess trying to help making a better move is'nt a thing to be appreciated anymore.

 

[kumar101]

Well i guess trying to help making a better move is'nt a thing to be appreciated anymore.

Whenever I post here on these forums there is always an alternate view provided by someone - rightly so.

I think its good to have a debate. I have already admitted I was wrong to post this thread here. So your comments are very valid in the context of the forum. I do appreciate your input.