The only experience I have with OLED is with the Samsung OLEDs in their phones and tablets and the thing that bugged be was the purple smear when pixels turned off (black) then had to return to a lighter colour. The early Occulus Rifts had it too but they got around that by raising black levels slightly to stop the pixels shutting off completely. Do the LG TVs have this at all?
Panasonics new IPS display to rival OLED
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Nope no smearing what so ever
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i don't know why people stick to the same manufacturer. the top dog regularly changes every few years.
fujitsu were the top dogs before pioneer plasmas came around which then died out to panasonic plasmas who were then rivaled by samsung plasma in the end before samsung took over the lcd market. sony then took over for a couple of years and now it's a mix between sony, samsung and LG. panasonic haven't had any major contenders for a while i can only think of 1 set since plasma died that has been any good.
as you can probably tell i have no affinity and it shows because i bought the best tv at the time for me and i have in my home a panny plasma, a sony lcd and a 4k LG. all of them were the best tv for my needs at the time i bought them. i would never show loyalty to a brand in the tv market, it's not as if you ever meet them at any stage. i do show loyalty to john lewis though as they price match, offer a 5 year warranty as standard and go above and beyond in terms of customer service.
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802b was good, 902b which is one of the cheapest ways to get a FALD set is supposed to be good as well.
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how did they compare to their competitors offerings at the times though? nothing special unlike their plasma days when it was pretty clear they were the top dogs. i hope they turn it around as they stuck behind plasma for so long but i think LG are making the biggest waves atm.
Sony no longer make panels so IMO it's only a matter of time before they are absorbed or go bust.
Samsung are up there still and probably will be for a long time.
Panasonic seem to be losing ground every day.
The 902b 58" screen is simply superb, it's a highly rated TV as well by a lot of reviews.
God knows why people don't rate them, yeh sure the blacks aren't as great as the LG OLED or any OLED set out there but then you pay silly money for that tech.
The 902b set I have is more than sufficient enough for my needs, maybe in a few yrs time I'll look at OLED or what the latest greatest is etc.
As for John Lewis?? They aren't the only place offering a 5yr warranty. Currys are offering the same as well.
God knows why people don't rate them, yeh sure the blacks aren't as great as the LG OLED or any OLED set out there but then you pay silly money for that tech.
The 902b set I have is more than sufficient enough for my needs, maybe in a few yrs time I'll look at OLED or what the latest greatest is etc.
As for John Lewis?? They aren't the only place offering a 5yr warranty. Currys are offering the same as well.
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The biggest gripe with the 902 was you could see the led backlight array in very bright scenes and over a panning background, other than that the local dimming was excellent as was the processing, which is a given with Panasonic it's almost as good as sonys processing! Which is why I'm looking forward to sonys OLED in 2017 hopefully they will bin the android OS or give it proper cpu and ram
When I looked in store I'd agree that OLED set's generally stood out I'd even argue that at most screen sizes below massive 60" monsters at a reasonable distance HDR probably added more than 4K.
That said I bought a Hisense 49" h49m3000 for £350 and at that price I couldn't care less what extra a LG OLED gets me, without even mentioning that input lag/gaming is not a problem on my cheapy TV.
That said I bought a Hisense 49" h49m3000 for £350 and at that price I couldn't care less what extra a LG OLED gets me, without even mentioning that input lag/gaming is not a problem on my cheapy TV.
Really?? Sorry I don't see what you are talking about. I've got it set to pretty high at the moment I don't see the LED backlight array. Neither do I see any issues with panning shots.
I usually use the thx cinema setting in the tv but I've put it on dynamic and cranked everything up to max and nope not seeing it unless you can tell me how you saw this.
Also having read majority of reviews before actually shelling close to £2k for this tv, I didn't anything regarding the backlight led array being seen or panning backgrounds etc.
Perhaps they have fixed it with a recent update, I don't know but I haven't seen any of these issues. Mind you my eyesight isn't that great but compared to the other tv panels I saw in store, the Panasonic one was the best one bar the LG OLED ones.
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Some people are prone to seeing it some aren't, me myself I pick up LCD motion smearing, DSE and banding very very easily I think it's to do with straight lines/sharp edges my eyes are drawn too, but things like dithering, phosphor trails and motion judder don't bother me in the slightest
Here is the review from hdtv if you look on the thermal image you can see the straight lines which is the panel array http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/tx65dx902b-201608144320.htm
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That Panasonic model was the one the insurance company tried to give me... I thought it was horrible... the motion issues were some of the worst I've seen on any TV... let alone one with its price tag.
I couldn't believe it received good reviews from quite a few well respected reviewers... definitely not something I could live with and a massive downgrade from my ~5 year old panny plasma.
I couldn't believe it received good reviews from quite a few well respected reviewers... definitely not something I could live with and a massive downgrade from my ~5 year old panny plasma.
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That's just you not giving you eyes chance to adjust from PWM of plasma to sample and hold of LCD
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lol
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It's quite a bit to get used to mate especially if you have had plasma for a long time
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Oh... I thought you were being funny 
I was comparing to other similar screens and the Samsung KS8000, Sony whatevermodel & OLED screens don't share the same motion issues as the Panasonic.
I was comparing to other similar screens and the Samsung KS8000, Sony whatevermodel & OLED screens don't share the same motion issues as the Panasonic.
Ahh ok I see what you are talking about. Yes I haven't seen anything like that and if I had then I would returned the tv and got something else instead.
Still the hdtvtest guys gave it a very good review in the end, so it can't be that terrible a screen. I know there might be the odd few out there that aren't perfect but mine is pretty spot on even without calibrating it professionally. The settings it comes out of the box with seem to be pretty good.
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Oh... I thought you were being funny
I was comparing to other similar screens and the Samsung KS8000, Sony whatevermodel & OLED screens don't share the same motion issues as the Panasonic.
I bet it had some motion enhancements turned on, that's the one thing panny can't seem to get right.
Ask them to show you the 902b models, they are even better.
Interestingly I just popped into currys where I bought my 902b Panasonic tv from and the price has gone up from the 1949 I paid to now 2099.
Wonder why the price has gone up rather than go down. I did ask one of the guys there but he looked confused at my question lol.
Do not understand why the Panasonic motion correction is often badly calibrated, as woppy101 said, but creating intermediate frames must need more computing power and software, versus the black frame insertion of Samsung ?
(with it off - formula one c4hd and the like on Pan looks fine, at 1080i should be more challenging than ~24fps blu-ray ?)
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(with it off - formula one c4hd and the like on Pan looks fine, at 1080i should be more challenging than ~24fps blu-ray ?)
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