Panny TH42PX80B vs Toshiba 42XV555DB

Has anyone that ordered the 42PX80 had their 3rd confirmation e mail yet? I received 2 quite quickly but not the 3rd, and my order still says Order in progress.
 
Called a few mins ago because I still hadn't received the 3rd confirmation e mail, everything seems okay, they gave a reference number and said to phone tomorrow to set up a 4 hour delivery slot for Monday.
 
Simon said:
Do you notice 1024 x 768 vs 1920 x1080 on a 19" PC monitor?

I would guess yes, the effect on a 40" TV is even more noticeable.
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I picked up a 42" PX80 yesterday and the SD picture quality is stunning.

I've seen SD tv look a pixilated mess on a lot of much more expensive full HD screens. Which is much, much more noticable than the difference between 1080p and 720p.
 
Mr.Bon said:
I've just found a PZ80 50" for £779.99
DAMN cheap.
Obviously I cannot name competitor. Add my msn if you want the link
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thats cheap, I just bought one for £900 with 5 yr warranty and thought it was a real bargain
 
With regards to the age-old 720p versus 1080p argument, people really need to see the difference for themselves rather than taking the advice of others.

The 720 versus 1080 figures are misleading as they suggest that the former is 66% of the resolution of the latter without considering the horizontal resolution. The 42" Panny plasmas are only 1024 pixels across, resulting in only 38% of the pixel count!

To those who claim you'll never see the difference unless you're very close to the screen - utter rubbish. I took my Bluray player round to the inlaws today and watched Wall-E on their 1024x768 Panny plasma and, at a viewing distance of around 8-9 feet, it was blindingly obvious how much lower the resolution was, with visible "jaggies" along edges of object that simply aren't there on my 1080p LCD.

I know there are a great many other factors at work when comparing sets and the difference between 720p and 1080p panels is more evidence with certain types of material but my point is that blanket "you'll never tell the difference unless you're two feet away" comments are highly misleading.

Bottom line? Go look at sets for yourself and make your own mind up :)
 
Vertigo1 said:
To those who claim you'll never see the difference unless you're very close to the screen - utter rubbish. I took my Bluray player round to the inlaws today and watched Wall-E on their 1024x768 Panny plasma and, at a viewing distance of around 8-9 feet, it was blindingly obvious how much lower the resolution was, with visible "jaggies" along edges of object that simply aren't there on my 1080p LCD.
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Complete agree with that. I can see the difference from 10feet away
 
I am currently looking for a new TV (currently own an old Hitachi LCD (non-HD). I went into 4-5 shops yesterdays and looked at the difference between 720p and 1080p. I took 2 others with me to hear their views. None of us could notice any difference between the 720p and 1080p plasma sets unless we got very close to the TV's - and even then the difference was minimal.
I also noticed for normal TV viewing (especially SD) the 720p sets are much better.

You can't really compare 720p vs 1080p on two completely different sets. I didn't notice any jaggies along edges of objects either.

You're right, the best thing to do would be to view the sets yourself - I did this and I know now that 1080p in my case is not worth the extra.
 
GSDog said:
I am currently looking for a new TV (currently own an old Hitachi LCD (non-HD). I went into 4-5 shops yesterdays and looked at the difference between 720p and 1080p. I took 2 others with me to hear their views. None of us could notice any difference between the 720p and 1080p plasma sets unless we got very close to the TV's -
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What source were they playing?

Also shops arent exactly the best places to check out Tvs
 
Vertigo1 said:
With regards to the age-old 720p versus 1080p argument, people really need to see the difference for themselves rather than taking the advice of others.

The 720 versus 1080 figures are misleading as they suggest that the former is 66% of the resolution of the latter without considering the horizontal resolution. The 42" Panny plasmas are only 1024 pixels across, resulting in only 38% of the pixel count!

To those who claim you'll never see the difference unless you're very close to the screen - utter rubbish. I took my Bluray player round to the inlaws today and watched Wall-E on their 1024x768 Panny plasma and, at a viewing distance of around 8-9 feet, it was blindingly obvious how much lower the resolution was, with visible "jaggies" along edges of object that simply aren't there on my 1080p LCD.

I know there are a great many other factors at work when comparing sets and the difference between 720p and 1080p panels is more evidence with certain types of material but my point is that blanket "you'll never tell the difference unless you're two feet away" comments are highly misleading.

Bottom line? Go look at sets for yourself and make your own mind up :)
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I agree to an extent. But you need to remember the source and the display are separate things and work together. The only real 1080p source currently IS blu-ray, and if blu-ray is going to be watched on a screen, then a 1080p set will surely display all the details of the 1080p source. however everything else that somebody might watch on a screen isn't 1080p, and is at best going to be 720p - skyhd / virgin hd / games and therefore for most people 720p will be totally acceptable. They won't be missing anything.

The folk who wil notice the differences in the way you describe tend to be the folk who care about these things anyway, and can therefore make the decision for themselves. The people who are asking for advice are the folk who don't know and therefore won't miss it.
 
Just thought I would add that you can get the panny from another place for the same price of £499. but they also have a 5 year warrantyfor the tv which is what I have gone for as with my luck the damn thing will go **** up just after the years warranty ends!

would have taken it home today but the bloody thing won't fit in the car doh!! just a warning to those picking these things up is that you have to keep it uprightwhen transporting it.
 
whitecrook said:
I agree to an extent. But you need to remember the source and the display are separate things and work together. The only real 1080p source currently IS blu-ray, and if blu-ray is going to be watched on a screen, then a 1080p set will surely display all the details of the 1080p source. however everything else that somebody might watch on a screen isn't 1080p, and is at best going to be 720p - skyhd / virgin hd / games and therefore for most people 720p will be totally acceptable. They won't be missing anything.
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Oh yeah I completely agree. The inlaws I mentioned don't have a bluray player themselves (hence taking mine) but do have Sky HD so, since all their source material is 720p or 1080i, the benefits of a 1080p panel are much less pronounced.
 
Mine has arrived and I've been watching it the past few hours, looks very nice with the built in freeview and DVD's look nice too, waiting for a HDMI cable to arrive for the DVD player, will hopefully improve the picture even more.
 
Youstolemyname said:
quick question- do I need an upscaling DVD player to go with the Panasonic or will the TV itself upscale the DVD for me?
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TV will upscale to some degree but the output from an upscaling DVD player would be far better.

That said I'd not bother getting the latter at this point. Make do with the TV's own scaling until you an afford a BD player which will upscale DVDs too.
 
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