Parking Fine from Private Company (not council)

Berger said:
Sorry, im only recalling what I thought was correct.

I believed that for the majority of places you could request the CCTV footage and you would have to pay a nominal fee.

When people have their car scraped, its the first thing to be suggested.

So sod off or come up with the correct answer rather than just slating me :rolleyes:
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My comment was based on you clearly not knowing what you're talking about but trying to pass it off as if you did. I don't know, so I didn't give advice that would have been bad advice. If he sent a letter demanding the CCTV footage under the data information act, he'd just look like a pillock because it doesn't exist.
 
I had the same type of thing from Sainsburys in Wakefield, got ticketed 3 times for the usual £60 fine, if paid early can be £30. Never paid up and never heard back from them since.
 
monkey_boy said:
My comment was based on you clearly not knowing what you're talking about but trying to pass it off as if you did. I don't know, so I didn't give advice that would have been bad advice. If he sent a letter demanding the CCTV footage under the data information act, he'd just look like a pillock because it doesn't exist.
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Yeah. It is impossible for someone to accidentally type "information" instead of "protection" when preceded by the word 'data' and instead they must be talking rubbish.

Oh wait.
 
Voltjunkie said:
Yeah. It is impossible for someone to accidentally type "information" instead of "protection" when preceded by the word 'data' and instead they must be talking rubbish.

Oh wait.
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That must be what happened. That'll be why his response was "Oops, typo. Edited :p". Oh wait.
 
Dont pay

I have recently had a spate of demands from a debt collectors on behalf of TCP after parking at work, after phoning the idiots I got fed up and sent them this email:
I am sending this email in connection to a spate of recent demands made by yourselves on behalf of Town and City Parking LTD, Account reference **********. The reason for the email being that thus far my previous letters and other communications have gone both unheeded and unanswered by both yourselves and your rather dubious clients.

As explained over the phone on four previous occasions to your unfortunate representatives I have absolutely no intention of paying the sum demanded or any alternative amount in regards to this ticket, and as such would greatly appreciate it if you would therefore cease your harassment forthwith. I find it laughable that you feel you can call the matter at hand an ‘offence’ (A violation or breach of a law, any public wrong or crime) as it is indeed nothing of the sort. I was also given to laugh when I read your claims that ‘I will be liable for any court costs incurred’ further more I very nearly wet myself when your representative felt that she could lie to me over the phone and tell me that ‘this invoice IS the responsibility of the registered keeper and NOT the driver’. I put it to you that Trading Standards will have different views with regards to who is actually committing an offence here.

As I have already informed you on several occasions this ticket is in dispute, my demands being:

1. Prove that it was in fact me that was in charge of the vehicle
2. Prove that the vehicle was in the bay for more than 3 hours.
3. Prove how the lost revenue equates to the extortionate sum on the original (unsolicited) invoice, and the further charges incurred thereafter, and
4. Furnish a court of law with the aforementioned proof of, breach of contract and pursue me for the alleged offence through the proper channels.
OR

Cease all contact immediately.

In the mean time maybe you and your clients could answer me the following question:

Why oh why are you trying to collect on the alleged but denied and non-existent debt based on an unenforceable "CIVIL PENALTY CHARGE NOTICE”?
You must know about Dunlop et al. If you don't I suggest you research asap.

If in doubt refer to Excel Parking, they can help you.
If you are still in difficulty then I look forward to explaining it to you and your clients in Court.
On the other hand and to give you the benefit of the doubt that you do understand the reality of the situation I have to wonder why you bother with this. Perhaps you justify it on the basis on the income you derive from people who do not know the law on Penalty charges in Civil Contracts. Personally speaking my ethics wouldn't allow me to behave that way.
If you contact me again with anything other than the proof required for you to have any hope of attempting to extort money from me in a legal forum, I will consider it, inter alia, Harassment under statute and pursue redress.

Thank you for taking the time to read this email, I appreciate that you do have much more pressing matters to attend to...such as bullying more submissive victims into paying your extortionate fees.

Just to clarify and summarise, I the registered keeper of the vehicle in question have no intention whatsoever to pay this fine, or to define it more accurately ‘excusable ignorance tax’ or ‘let’s hope they don’t know better charge’ until you and your pusillanimous clients follow the law of the land and furnish me with the proof that is required

I wish you all the best in your endeavour; please give my regards to your client.

Their reply sent today was:
Good Morning,

"We have been instructed by our client Town and City Parking to withdraw from this account. No more correspondence will be sent to you."

Case closed they dont have a leg to stand on and just try to scare you into paying NEVER PAY THESE PARASITES
 
Fantastic stuff harry_dirt, made me choke on my drink! :D

Just goes to show, one strongly worded email/letter and they'll go away.
 
You wasted your money and assisted an industry which preys on the weak and the uninformed. Are you proud of yourself?
 
Muncher said:
Not true at all.

From a practical perspective however, the chances are that you can avoid paying them.
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Actually, technically he is. Penalty clauses aren't enforceable in UK contracts. Therefore 'fines' aren't legally enforceable. Effectively what they're trying to do is charge you for the parking at a higher rate than is standard. That's fine as long as you can prove a contract was formed.
 
Yes, but liquidated damages clauses are.

£80 for a failing to buy a ticket may well be a genuine pre-breach assessment of the losses incurred by the operator. It's no longer a case of issuing a small ticket to display, due to the breach the operator has to trace you, write to you, correspond with you and try to recover the money owed, often unsuccessfully.
 
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