Parking sensors

Just came to say that I fitted a £16 pair to my 09 CTR. Holes were already marked in the bumper and was just a case of routing the wires through the existing holes in the bodyshell. Had no issues with them so far 6+ months use.
 
Armageus said:
Suggesting Insurance is automatically void because items aren't declared is a bit far fetched - I assume most people who have added options to their car when ordering (or have retrofitted factory options) don't declare them.
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If it came with it from the factory, you don't have to declare it. Anything you change/get changed should be disclosed and they decide if it needs to be officially declared and thus something that affects your premium. Some companies provide a list of the sorts of things they look for, generally performance/engine mods and overly expensive stuff like uprated shocks, fancy paint jobs, body kits, etc.

Nasher said:
Only the bad insurers do that. The good ones either ask you to pay the difference to cover the mods, or just don't replace/cover modified parts. Some specialist insurers will also cover the cost and even replace damaged mods like for like.
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There's a lot of bad ones out there, then, as it's in the Ts&Cs that your insurance may be invalidated if you do not inform them of all relevant details regarding your vehicle, licence, personal details and history. Some companies obviously sieze upon it as an excuse not to pay out anything...
 
ttaskmaster said:
If it came with it from the factory, you don't have to declare it. Anything you change/get changed should be disclosed and they decide if it needs to be officially declared and thus something that affects your premium.
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Where do you draw the line though? Let's say I buy a used car - it didn't come from the factory specced with Parking Sensors, however the previous owner got the dealer to fit OEM sensors that integrate with the dash etc.

As a new owner I am not going to know that they weren't a factory fit item, and as such wouldn't declare them anyway (although technically the car has been modified from it's original spec).

Same as if a used car came with different wheels (e.g. S-Line wheels on a non S-Line Audi for example) - how would I know they weren't the original ones?
 
Armageus said:
Where do you draw the line though? Let's say I buy a used car - it didn't come from the factory specced with Parking Sensors, however the previous owner got the dealer to fit OEM sensors that integrate with the dash etc.
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If it is an optional extra for that particular model, it probably counts as a Factory Spec, particularly given how there are many possible combinations of spec within the Model and Sub-Model (and sub-sub-sub-Model) choices.

Basically, look it up in Parkers or maybe Glass's and see what 'Trim' you have. That will detail the Factory Spec stuff.

Armageus said:
Same as if a used car came with different wheels (e.g. S-Line wheels on a non S-Line Audi for example) - how would I know they weren't the original ones?
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If you're buying summat like that, I'd suspect you probably would know, though... That, or look it up as above.

But I suspect it'll be more around three main things:
- Performace/engine mods, like when your paperwork says you have a 110bhp Golf that you've chipped to 150bhp.
- Obvious mods, like your ma-HOOOOOOO-ssive red spoiler on the back of your Metro, or the racing splitters on your 1991 Volvo Estate.
- Non-spec (and/or expensive) mods, like fitting a £4,000 stereo system into your £300 XR3i.
 
On topic slightly... Can anyone recommend a reversing camera to fit a Kenwood head unit? Just put a deposit down on a used pickup that comes with with a 7" kenwood screen (not sure of the model) and would like to install a parking camera to it.
 
You just need to check what kind of video input it needs then there should bebloads of choice - I would just get and find the smallest camera out there that would suit the car, ideally fixed underneath a light cluster or the likes
 
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maccapacca said:
http://www.metasystem.org.uk/vehicles_parking_rnpm.aspx

I bought and fitted one of these and they work really well. I can't drill into my bumper for various reasons.
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Does it cover all angles?

Reversing up to a wall might work great, but if you're reversing into one of those stupid bays where they've put a bollard/raised curb in the corner of the bay, i'm worried that as there's only two central sensors it might miss these.
 
rodenal said:
You just need to check what kind of video input it needs then there should bebloads of choice - I would just get and find the smallest camera out there that would suit the car, ideally fixed underneath a light cluster or the likes
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One thing I'm not sure of is whether the "system" is built into the head unit of the actual camera unit. I.e. the parking lines and ability for it to automatically turn on when reversing. I assume that is built into the Kenwood head we would already have?
 
Uther said:
Last few cars I have had have had these fitted already, and I've got very used to them.
Next car won't have them, so I am either going to fit sensors or even maybe a camera. Loads of cheap ones on ebay etc, anyone had success with these, or is it better to get more expensive ones from places like halfrauds?
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Just to bring the thread slightly back on topic after all the insurance related talk -

Wife was at the Vauxhall dealer's yesterday about something else, but asked for a quote to have rear parking sensors fitted.... £350! Needless to say will be looking elsewhere.
 
Armageus said:
Just to bring the thread slightly back on topic after all the insurance related talk -

Wife was at the Vauxhall dealer's yesterday about something else, but asked for a quote to have rear parking sensors fitted.... £350! Needless to say will be looking elsewhere.
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If you're willing to put up with a slightly less attractive than OEM solution, you could buy some aftermarket sensors for about £20 and have them fitted with some patience and a morning of your time. I bought a cheap eBay set and fitted them to my old Mondeo and they were fine.
 
Howard said:
If you're willing to put up with a slightly less attractive than OEM solution, you could buy some aftermarket sensors for about £20 and have them fitted with some patience and a morning of your time. I bought a cheap eBay set and fitted them to my old Mondeo and they were fine.
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Whilst I'm sure it's within my capabilities to do it, I never feel comfortable with removing bodywork let alone drilling holes in a bumper!

Have just contacted a local Vauxhall specialist as want a quote for a couple of other bits (Cruise control retrofit and Onboard Computer enabling), so will see what they can do.
 
Amp34 said:
One thing I'm not sure of is whether the "system" is built into the head unit of the actual camera unit. I.e. the parking lines and ability for it to automatically turn on when reversing. I assume that is built into the Kenwood head we would already have?
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The lines come from the camera iirc, you'll also find that the head unit likely switches as soon as a live video signal is detected, that's why the cameras are typically wired into your reverse light
 
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