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There’s usually a reason somethings cheap in my experience are you going to disclose your budget?
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Part Exchanging a Car with Scratch
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That's exactly it, and I'm sort of at the point now where I'm not sure if it's better to wait until everywhere opens in just over 2 weeks.
What do people think will happen when showrooms open again, will demand and therefore prices rise, with less room for negotiation, or is the opinion that it will be a safer option?
I'm only really looking at the SR now, rather than the SE, as the extras really make it worth for me, and after part exchange, I'm looking to pay no more more £9500 cash really..
I've just had a chat with someone quite far away about a car similarly priced as the one that ghosted me, except he's quite keen to push a deal, has accepted £9200 + my car, and offered to deliver it for free.
I'm going to question a bit more and make sure that I can get a 12 month warranty etc. And it all looks fine, as they're an approved vauxhall dealer, but have honda dealerships around too.
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Ours is a 2017 SE.
I’ve fitted SR wheels myself
The SR is the model to have in the ideal world.
I’ve fitted SR wheels myself
The SR is the model to have in the ideal world.
Yeah I've figured that it's worth the extra £1000 or so to have a camera, electric mirrors, autoplay, auto wipers etc. If I end getting the SE now, I reckon ill be quite disappointed about missing out on those things and won't enjoy it as much.
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Apple car play is worth having, but you loose the volume knob.
The SE is fine for us, but the wheels really do transform the car
The SE is fine for us, but the wheels really do transform the car
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Absolutely ridiculous, these dealers.
About that dealership that ghosted me for ages, another branch managed to take it on for the same agreed price, and I've put a £500 deposit down with an agreed collection date of Friday.
They wanted photos of the scratch (salesperson initial email did say they're fine as long as the car is in 'average' condition), and now they're trying to add an extra £150-£200 on top of the agreed price... They have tried to say there's structural damage to the bonnet (there isn't), and also noting the small crack alongside the headlight.
I've sent a strongly worded email stating that without the scratch, this would be a very good condition car for it's age, so it should definitely meet the average condition criteria as it is, and I am not willing to add any extra money on top.
Think its more trouble for them to refund me the deposit, readvertise etc. For the sake of 1% of their car sales value.
What does everyone think? Scratch below:
https://ibb.co/X25hWYq
About that dealership that ghosted me for ages, another branch managed to take it on for the same agreed price, and I've put a £500 deposit down with an agreed collection date of Friday.
They wanted photos of the scratch (salesperson initial email did say they're fine as long as the car is in 'average' condition), and now they're trying to add an extra £150-£200 on top of the agreed price... They have tried to say there's structural damage to the bonnet (there isn't), and also noting the small crack alongside the headlight.
I've sent a strongly worded email stating that without the scratch, this would be a very good condition car for it's age, so it should definitely meet the average condition criteria as it is, and I am not willing to add any extra money on top.
Think its more trouble for them to refund me the deposit, readvertise etc. For the sake of 1% of their car sales value.
What does everyone think? Scratch below:
https://ibb.co/X25hWYq
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Just get a SE and put wheels on it.
edit: you will get a lower mileage car and have more choice.
edit: edit: or just pay the extra £200 and be done with it.
How many miles has the SR done?
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That doesn't look like average condition to me. That's going to need some work to make good, likely a new bumper.
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That's not a scratch by any bca definition
Well that's made me feel like a mug! Do you call a floater in the toilet a skidmark as well?
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That clearly isn't a scratch...
it does look like a bonnet crease ... was it recent since there's no rust ?
so with that plus bumper, they're unlikely to be able to make much in an auction.;
maybe bodywork/interior/engine-bay will cause them to reconsider the £150 additional they want ... depends on your negotiating skills
so with that plus bumper, they're unlikely to be able to make much in an auction.;
maybe bodywork/interior/engine-bay will cause them to reconsider the £150 additional they want ... depends on your negotiating skills
take the 150 hit it would cost more to repair and call it a day, not worth the hassle, but the car you get had better not have any faults 
prep fill and repaint as well as probably bumper removal and repair would cost way more than 150 so if they only knock 150 to 200 off then its a good deal.
prep fill and repaint as well as probably bumper removal and repair would cost way more than 150 so if they only knock 150 to 200 off then its a good deal.
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take the 150 hit it would cost more to repair and call it a day, not worth the hassle, but the car you get had better not have any faults
prep fill and repaint as well as probably bumper removal and repair would cost way more than 150 so if they only knock 150 to 200 off then its a good deal.
It’s cheap for a SR.
They fetch silly money for what they are.
Reason I got a low mile SE, it’s well equipped and same engine & chassis as the SR.
I think I have my heart set on the extra electronic features of the SR, although it's true that I could probably get an SE for closer to £9k + my car.
It's done over 26k miles. Would be willing to pay £200 more if I found one with 18-20k on the clock.
What would you call it though? If they ask on the phone about condition?
Yeah it was originally a bonnet crease from a low speed shunt, had a local garage guy I'm on good terms with bend it, and hence the paint flaked off. But it seems pretty in line with me and purely paint damaged. This was just over a year ago now.
That's why I'm a bit apprehensive about it, so close to showrooms opening. There's no guarantee without seeing and testing the car that there are no issues, so there is always a small risk.take the 150 hit it would cost more to repair and call it a day, not worth the hassle, but the car you get had better not have any faults
prep fill and repaint as well as probably bumper removal and repair would cost way more than 150 so if they only knock 150 to 200 off then its a good deal.
Main reason I have tried to stick to my guns is that with the previous dealer, I had a valuation of £1200 (which is obviously on the low side, without viewing my car), and then an extra £245 was added on as good will, so I considered that extra money to cover these issues.
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It's not a scratch its a crease. The bonnet doesn't even look aligned properly.
I don't really understand why you're messing around, the car looks like it needs a new bonnet and bumper to me. It would cost a lot more for those issues to be sorted than what you seem to be haggling over.
So it's a crease if the metal was originally bent and put back into place with the paint cracking as shown?
Also are you talking about misalignment from the bonnet to the grill? That's nothing to do with the bump it took, that's just how these model years were manufactured, really bad QC I know, but if you check other ones on Google it looks exactly the same. When I first got the car I had to get my boss to double check it with me because I thought the bonnet wasn't latching down properly!
I'm messing around a bit because I don't really want to commit more money without having actually viewed or driven the car. Maybe if I were to view it and find it in immaculate condition and running perfectly etc. I'd be more inclined to negotiate some extra, but at this stage if it's not a complete bargain, I'm okay with waiting a couple more weeks for lockdown to end and checking these cars out properly. Also won't be any confusion if I bring my car at the same time.
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Well its not a scratch is it, doesn't matter what word you use to describe the damage, it's obviously not a scratch. For an extra 150-200 I'd stop messing around and get on with it if you want the car, or like you said just wait for dealerships to open again because at this point you're just wasting peoples time.
That's why I'm a bit apprehensive about it, so close to showrooms opening. There's no guarantee without seeing and testing the car that there are no issues, so there is always a small risk.
Main reason I have tried to stick to my guns is that with the previous dealer, I had a valuation of £1200 (which is obviously on the low side, without viewing my car), and then an extra £245 was added on as good will, so I considered that extra money to cover these issues.[/QUOTE]
just to put it into perspective daughters boyfriend had a 2014 ibiza and about 3 months ago traded it in for a 2017 model both 1.2s no real difference i think pretty much the same shape , his 2014 model had just under 40k on the clock always serviced and mot by the dealer he got just under 1600 pounds in p/x with no bodywork or issues... i know i was spitting cause i would have had it in a heartbeat but the deal was done within hours. he turned up at the dealer and noticed the newer one and the salesman got him grrrrrrrrrrr.
so either prices for secondhand seat is not good or he got mugged i tend to think the latter but it makes your price with damage look good.
personally with the damage on your bonnet and bumper and possible further panel damage ive bought salvage with similar or less damage on it.
Main reason I have tried to stick to my guns is that with the previous dealer, I had a valuation of £1200 (which is obviously on the low side, without viewing my car), and then an extra £245 was added on as good will, so I considered that extra money to cover these issues.[/QUOTE]
just to put it into perspective daughters boyfriend had a 2014 ibiza and about 3 months ago traded it in for a 2017 model both 1.2s no real difference i think pretty much the same shape , his 2014 model had just under 40k on the clock always serviced and mot by the dealer he got just under 1600 pounds in p/x with no bodywork or issues... i know i was spitting cause i would have had it in a heartbeat but the deal was done within hours. he turned up at the dealer and noticed the newer one and the salesman got him grrrrrrrrrrr.
so either prices for secondhand seat is not good or he got mugged i tend to think the latter but it makes your price with damage look good.
personally with the damage on your bonnet and bumper and possible further panel damage ive bought salvage with similar or less damage on it.