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Patch to enable PhysX with AMD GPUs

Actually the problem isn't that you didn't make the right choice in the first place

The problem is that people that did make a legitimate choice i.e. those that bought a PPU card ( and remember Nvidia were still selling those even after they took over Aegia and that were were advertised as compatible with both ATi and nvidia cards), had they cards essentially bricked by one of the most under-handed operators in the IT business doing their usual dirty tricks
 
Yeah simple logics buy a Nvida card, but what happens if we don't want to pay their prices? You see, IF Nvida just took away support loads of people will buy their low end cards for dedicated physics cards, regards less of Nvidias warnings, its not our fault ATI happen to make products that are cheaper and can be as fast ;) I myself had a choice between GTX295 and HD4890 CF as you can see ATI won, reason performance is about the same, and cheaper ;)

and we have a good old working Nvidia card like a 8800? that's that logics flawed :p

also what people have stated before me while I was proof reading so I don't look stupid, some people BROUGHT thier cards for the job they are entitled for that tech they paid for it, its part of the feature list, we don't expect support but we expect to use that feature we paid for

what would you say if ATI did that..... I bet you would be b***ching like hell -_-
 
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lol physx is a total waste, the idea of physics on the GPU is great and I hope it continues but physx is awful all we have seen so far is bloody curtains and windows that appear to smash better, it is so lame

We need an open standard supported by all hardware and developers end of, no excuses
 
Martini1991 said:
It's still wrong.. What about PPU owners? How's it legal to stop them using there graphics card?.
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Well if they want to shoot themselves in the foot, alienate their customers, all in the name of a deluded product strategy then so be it!

I'm still attempting to work out how they came to the idea that if they prevent their customers from using Physx with an AMD card present when their competitor is going to release a major release that they can place a barrier like that until their next release and not feel a rebuke from their customer base...
 
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NickK said:
I'm still attempting to work out how they came to the idea that if they prevent their customers from using Physx with an AMD card present when they're competitor is going to release a major release that they can place a barrier like that until their next release and not feel a rebuke from their customer base...
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Has me scratching my head... amongst everything else - it stiffles the sale of their mid-range cards 9600-250GTS that would be the cards purchased as a physics processor and also these are the very cards that they make the most profit from... it completely makes no sense... someone at nVidia is very deluded.
 
Rroff said:
Has me scratching my head... amongst everything else - it stiffles the sale of their mid-range cards 9600-250GTS that would be the cards purchased as a physics processor and also these are the very cards that they make the most profit from... it completely makes no sense... someone at nVidia is very deluded.
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I was also thinking that. It has me wondering why. The only reasonable conclusion I can come to is Nvidia are trying to prevent ATi's current growth of market share, which isn't, as consumers, exactly how we want companies to compete.
 
Lightnix said:
I was also thinking that. It has me wondering why. The only reasonable conclusion I can come to is Nvidia are trying to prevent ATi's current growth of market share, which isn't, as consumers, exactly how we want companies to compete.
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Not only that, but it seems futile, as plenty are flocking to the 5800s and AMD/ATi have secured big deals with big people as it is.
 
yeah I m question thier actions, I think thier idea was to use physicX AGAINST ATI, So people would buy their cards over ATI and it shot them in the foot
 
TBH they are the actions of someone in far too much of a position of power with a borderline mental condition, OCD possibly aspergers or something along that line.
 
im assuming that nvidia stop the use of thier cards for physx when any other manufactureres card is present and not just an ati one, somebody try it with onboard an graphics chip aswell.
 
bru said:
im assuming that nvidia stop the use of thier cards for physx when any other manufactureres card is present and not just an ati one, somebody try it with onboard an graphics chip aswell.
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Probably - but in the off chance Larrabee is actually good and somebody wants to keep their Nvidia card in conjunction with it for PhysX, I don't see why they shouldn't be able to.
 
With the game developers tying their company names to nVidia.. it's not only customers but their partners' customers.

AMG - yes, the idea of stopping Physx working with AMG cards was supposed to make the customer think that if they switch to AMD they will loose gaming experience. Instead they hoped that the customer would then wait for nVidia's next release rather than take the AMD offering.

In short - those that want the best will go for what benchmarks as the leader. Now nVidia's claim to leadership depends on them being leaders... if Physx doesn't work on AMD they can state that in terms of value and performance of the game (inc physics) they are still better than AMD.. all nVidia and you get better performance than all AMD.

It just so happened that people found that you could get the best of both worlds, up until that point people were content with the choice. How long this remains 'hackable' in terms of EULA and coding is a different matter - how long this remains relevant in terms of 58x0 vs Fermi availability is another..

Barriers such as cost of ripping and replacing both cards/reduced functionality if only partly used for example are a common practice for B2B and large scale deployments. It allows them to say to you that the value (ie your added cloth/smoke etc) is less with AMD vs their existing offerings.
However barriers like this only work if you keep the customer friendly and the components provide some core/critical functionality for the customer. Adding cloth and additional smoke isn't core/critical as most game developers can't justify making a game that only works with Physx and two nVidia graphics cards.
 
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I thought the whole point of the PPU was so that you can run physx along side your graphics card, in the beginning it said nothing about nVidia graphics card. People used it with all kinds of graphics cards and it simply worked like they said it would.
 
well if there is a law against it, than its not and why has the EU not sued them ?

Nvidia are doing far worst than what intel did, need alone Microsoft (who didn't do nothing)
 
Rapido! said:
Again, there seems to be a weird kind of entitlement complex on the part of certain ATi advocates here. I know that those concerned like to think they're Robin Hood, fightin' the good fight or whatever but seriously, ya pay your money ya takes your choice.

And all of the consequences therein. You were not mislead.

What these attempts to pirate PhysX say to me is that maybe, just maybe, you didn't actually make the right choice in the first place. Even now, with AMD leading the DX11 charge, you still look at the green side with green eyes.

Like an unloved, envious brother, you just have to have what he has. It's infantile, it's sad, and more than a little amusing.

So, uh, pirate on, you ethical consumers you!..*wheels away in laughter*
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The words escape me.....they should do an IQ test before they let ppl like this join the forums...1+1= should suffice for this boy.
 
I am sure that the monthly thread on Physx used to end up as

Physx, what do you want to use that rubbish for. (I do simplify slightly)

Yet here now on the same forum is a thread deriding Nvidia for disabling this feature that most people on the forum dismissed as a waste of time.

If it is such a pointless thing why get upset about it.

I guess possibly more people were using it then were prepared to be vocal about supporting it earlier.

Priceless!
 
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