Paul Pogba

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Talk of him being called up to the french national team, looks like he made the right choice in moving away from United.

Playing alongside the maestro that is Pirlo, what baffles me is WHY wasn't he given playtime? He manages to get time in a midfield which is far better than United's, why was he frozen out of United's average midfield?
 
I thought Juventus were good but him and Bendtner getting game time would suggest otherwise...?

He looked good but iirc it was his attitude that was the problem, not his ability?
 
He's 19
He was in the last year of his contract

I'd say it's fairly obvious why he didn't get more games last season and beyond that but hey ho well done on the thread anyway
 
Tom84 said:
He's 19
He was in the last year of his contract

I'd say it's fairly obvious why he didn't get more games last season and beyond that but hey ho well done on the thread anyway
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Mario Götze is 20 years old and he gets games regularly for club and country, when did age get in the way of playing for United? Fergie as we're always led to believe loves giving young players a go, what went wrong with Pogba then?

Fairly obvious? Would be fairly obvious if you have a Iniesta or Xavi ahead of you.. Not Carrick, Giggs, Scholes & Park (like last year).
 
Young players need to play football in order to develop.

It's a real shame that young footballers in this country aren't given a better chance, the clubs feel that there is too much at steak to risk playing younger players. I think it was on the 606 World Football phone in that the Big Wheel mentioned that the average age of players breaking in to their first teams or being given starts had risen in the Premier League to being 22?

I'm sure Manchester United fans will point out some character flaws or that he was greedy wanting a bigger contract or had unrealistic expectations or whatever :p
 
Tummy said:
Young players need to play football in order to develop.

It's a real shame that young footballers in this country aren't given a better chance, the clubs feel that there is too much at steak to risk playing younger players. I think it was on the 606 World Football phone in that the Big Wheel mentioned that the average age of players breaking in to their first teams or being given starts had risen in the Premier League to being 22?

I'm sure Manchester United fans will point out some character flaws or that he was greedy wanting a bigger contract or had unrealistic expectations or whatever :p
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Mmmmmm steak, now you got me all drooling Tummy :(:p
 
Dimi said:
Mario Götze is 20 years old and he gets games regularly for club and country, when did age get in the way of playing for United? Fergie as we're always led to believe loves giving young players a go, what went wrong with Pogba then?

Fairly obvious? Would be fairly obvious if you have a Iniesta or Xavi ahead of you.. Not Carrick, Giggs, Scholes & Park (like last year).
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If you had ever seen Pogba play and not just youtube'd a couple of goals and thought to yourself you'd then create a thread to wind up the Man Utd supporters you'd know Pogba is nowhere near the level of talent as Gotze

Again well done on the thread though
 
Tom84 said:
He's 19
He was in the last year of his contract

I'd say it's fairly obvious why he didn't get more games last season and beyond that but hey ho well done on the thread anyway
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This post is as bitter as a lemon :p

I can't believe SAF let him go when your midfield is ****. He is as good as any of your midfielders now and will soon be streets ahead. Crazy!
 
In defence of Utd, those are two youtube clips, you can find much better goals than that from the likes of Heskey on there, it doesn't mean anything. What people really fail to realise is that if you shoot badly, you can "miss" what you intended and still score. The first is a basic header, the second was better but those sneak in quite often also, neither are proof of quality.

The fact that he's played a decent amount for a team currently first in the league is however fairly indicative of the trust they put in him, but also be aware he's only made a single sub appearance in the CL and only started 3 games in the league and against 3 bottom half teams, he's not a first team started against the best teams yet either.


Should Pogba have been given a chance, given how he currently looks, it seems pretty obvious he should, I think one of Fergie's likely plans was rather like Wenger with Theo this year, scare/intimidate them into signing a new contract by freezing them out, as if no one will know who they are if they don't make many appearances and will be forced to sign a new contract. In both cases the manager is more likely forcing the play out rather than to sign a new contract.

There are loads of things fans don't know, Pogba's attitude, is he the next Nile Ranger/Barton, or the next Beckham/Ronaldo, likely to end up in jail or be a model professional?

Put it this way, I'd prefer to be paying Pogba the same wage as Anderson and get rid of Anderson, he won't improve, he's stupid, not very good, has the odd half decent performance and won't ever be a really top player. As with Arsenal I keep saying, I'd prefer to spend the money on players who MIGHT be good enough, than keep spending money on players who you know aren't good enough.
 
No1newts said:
This post is as bitter as a lemon :p

I can't believe SAF let him go when your midfield is ****. He is as good as any of your midfielders now and will soon be streets ahead. Crazy!
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I'm not bitter all I will say is Dimi succeeded in his mission to wind up this Man Utd supporter :o

I would ask you though if you've ever seen Pogba play? Speaking from someone who did see every competitive minute he played at the club personally I dont think him leaving will be a decision we'll regret down the years.
 
Who cares united still nearly top with a 'crap' midfield, you could use a turd team under Ferguson and he'd probably get them winning one way or another, he has sold much better players. The only place it would matter is Europe but Ferguson isn't really good in Europe anyways
 
No1newts said:
This post is as bitter as a lemon :p

I can't believe SAF let him go when your midfield is ****. He is as good as any of your midfielders now and will soon be streets ahead. Crazy!
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Just because he can get in a decent team in another league, has no relation at all as to whether he can cope with the EPL

If he had signed another contract last season , he would have got more games last season (if he was good enough), especially during the time TC was out injured and before Scholes had been re-registered in Jan
 
United tried to keep him but his wage demands were too high. End of.

He is an exceptional talent and would have played games this year but he was not prepared to wait for his contract to increase once he had proven his talent in the first team.

I have high hopes for Nick Powell.
 
Liefrich said:
United tried to keep him but his wage demands were too high. End of.

He is an exceptional talent and would have played games this year but he was not prepared to wait for his contract to increase once he had proven his talent in the first team.

I have high hopes for Nick Powell.
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Considering Fergie was basically freezing him out, not giving him a chance Pogba had both no chance to prove himself, nor based on Anderson, Berbatov, plenty of others, could he look at Fergie and know that signing a contract wouldn't mean he'd rot on the bench. Likewise Welbeck just got a what 75-85k a week contract, despite being rubbish.

Managers are oddballs, I think those who have been around longest, which is now Wenger/Fergie, do the oddest things, stick with certain players who aren't remotely good enough and bench a couple of their best players.

If you were Pogba, being given no games, being told to sign a contract for less than you could get elsewhere, and seeing gash like Welbeck get 4 times what he's worth and starting loads of games, I'm not sure how you could come to any decision than signing a contract is a ridiculously big risk. Will he play you every game, or bench you for 3 years. That might have been different if Fergie gave him a start or two. Pogba did what was best for himself and Fergie didn't give him any reason to believe if he signed that he'd get a real chance.

ULtimately its nuts to throw away a guy who might be good enough, while throwing away significantly more money on players who simply aren't good enough.
 
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