Pay query

Belloni

Belloni

Belloni

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Bit of background, been at the current job around 1 year and a half. Recently been given a small pay rise due to my work. However, someone on my work level left which meant I've been filling in for them. I've been moved to look after their category as a result of it, whilst they recruit someone for my old role permanently. However, a colleague I used to work with who works in the same job title I do, got in contact with me to enquire about the position and sent me the link to the advertisement. It's my role but the pay bracket is up to £5,000 more.

I know inflation and all that, they might have more experience, I can move jobs etc but I'm currently enjoying this due to location and work.

Would you mention it to your boss? This looks like I'm ungrateful for my rise I guess, but it's playing on my mind since seeing it the potential of said new person.

GD thoughts?
 
Mention it, I would. In the public domain and worst they can say is no.

Edit. You said up to 5k more. Guessing there is a range and you are in the middle? Still doesn’t hurt to ask but the range gives them wiggle room.
 
balky12 said:
Mention it, I would. In the public domain and worst they can say is no.

Edit. You said up to 5k more. Guessing there is a range and you are in the middle? Still doesn’t hurt to ask but the range gives them wiggle room.
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My pay rise meant I'm at the lowest end of the range they are now offering.

mrbazmondo said:
Is the job you're filling in for more demanding than your old role?
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Not really, same role just different platform really. The pay rise was that they recognised I was doing two jobs and for previous work achieved. The role I'm filling in for is now my new role so to speak.
 
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Belloni said:
Not really, same role just different platform really. The pay rise was that they recognised I was doing two jobs and for previous work achieved. The role I'm filling in for is now my new role so to speak.
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The mere fact that you've already had one rise indicates to me they're the kind of employer that might be worth sticking with though, keep working hard, make it known you'll be needing a pay rise at your performance review to stay and stick with it.

Also worth bearing in mind that many companies will have some kind of crap policy that says you can't get a rise greater than X% of current salary without director sign off or some such rubbish.

Got sent a paper by someone recently with a couple of interesting tidbits in it - moving to other employers averages an 18% uplift in pay (south east in IT), employees that are super loyal and stay in jobs a long time normally max out a 4% a year in pay growth or something like that, and offers to uplift in pay average a max of 12% increase if you hand your notice in but they want to retain you.
 
Annoyingly I have this predicament too, there were 3 of us doing the same job, I was most junior so got paid the least but now I've done it for nearly 2 years they're recruiting for 2 more staff (1 left). Guaranteed they'll be on more than me when they start but I'll be teaching them how to do it. I asked for a pay rise in January and chased in Feb but haven't heard anything yet. It's not much but still about £1000 or so per year so I'm a little unsure.
 
iamdjdz said:
Annoyingly I have this predicament too, there were 3 of us doing the same job, I was most junior so got paid the least but now I've done it for nearly 2 years they're recruiting for 2 more staff (1 left). Guaranteed they'll be on more than me when they start but I'll be teaching them how to do it. I asked for a pay rise in January and chased in Feb but haven't heard anything yet. It's not much but still about £1000 or so per year so I'm a little unsure.
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Sounds like you'll never be in as strong a position as you are right now for a bit of negotiation, tart up your CV and get it out there sharpish, get a couple of offers on the table and take them with you to your boss for a chat
 
when i first started a job i was on 19k but one of the best performers - they didnt appreciate or anything until a chinese colleague came aboard and he was getting me to proof read something to HMRC and i raised it with my manager who 'said she didnt know' but did put me up to same salary as him..
 
BongoHunter said:
Also worth bearing in mind that many companies will have some kind of crap policy that says you can't get a rise greater than X% of current salary without director sign off or some such rubbish.
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I've had that one before in my first job after uni. I had an offer from somewhere else for a step down the ladder but on more pay. To keep me they offered me more responsibility (baggage to maintain rather than something interesting) and to match the offer. I knew about their policy on not increasing salary by over a certain amount. I said I had concerns that I would not get pay rise the next year due to this increase. Rather than say it would or wouldn't, their response was to replace their previous offer with half the increase now and half the increase next year. It seemed like they genuinely thought this was better than their first offer. I left.
 
Same thing happened to me at my first job after uni. I worked there for 1.5 years when a couple of people in my team left. They put the advert up to recruit 2 new people for a few £k more than what I was on. One of the reasons I left soon after. So did the other members of the team.
 
Is the role being advertised at a higher pay scale than you were on or is it simply being advertised "up to" the top end of the pay scale you are on?
 
You need to pay more to entice someone into the company than you do to retain someone who is already in it, this is why hopping companies every few years is the best way to grow your wage.
 
Firestar_3x said:
You need to pay more to entice someone into the company than you do to retain someone who is already in it, this is why hopping companies every few years is the best way to grow your wage.
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Often the only way to really grow your wages - many companies these days operate pay bands with little to no flexibility as well.
 
Hades said:
Is the role being advertised at a higher pay scale than you were on or is it simply being advertised "up to" the top end of the pay scale you are on?
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So my pay rise before this bought me up to the very bottom of what this pay range is being advertised.
 
You could just ask why its being advertised for £5k more, making it clear you're just curious, with the real reason just to make them know you are aware of what they are offering.
 
BongoHunter said:
Apply for it and see what happens... :)
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If the manager has any sense, offer him the job on the money he's on, which is in the band being offered and put it back to the OP about whether he wants to accept.

Then see how awkward you find the decision to say 'I don't want the job then' even though you're already doing it :p
 
So you think just make them aware that I've seen the advertisement and go from there? I will eventually leave as I know that's where the biggest gains are to be had, but for now...
 
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