Paypal question

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Hi guys,

Me again with another fun Paypal related question.

I've won an item from somebody. I asked if I could arrange a courier to collect, and they said fine, but reminded me that the item would go 'nowhere' until it was paid for. Odd thing to say as I'd have thought that was obvious, but fair enough.

I paid last night and contacted them to ask for a convenient day to send the courier. This morning I recieved this message:

Remember the item goes nowhere until the funds have CLEARED in my paypal account. They are currently on hold until you leave positive feedback. I'm guessing from your earlier questions that your planning to dispute the item to get a free item. Remember it goes nowhere until paid for. You have NOT paid.

This has left me confused. The only 'earlier' questions relate to convenient times to book the courier for.

I've recieved lots of money for EBay items via Paypal and never once has anything I've received from a buyer ever been 'held' pending positive feedback. Does that really happen? Why? I paid him last night but he's saying it hasn't cleared and wont until I leave positive feedback.

Is that really true?

I'm understandably a bit nervous about leaving positive feedback before I even get the item. Surely if Paypal DOES hold payments until positive feedback is received it does it for a reason?
 
I'm not sure I'm that amused with the accusation that I'm going to steal the item from him when all I've done is asked what day I should get it collected and send him 50 quid! :p

So to confirm then - Paypal never holds funds pending positive feedback?
 
Well he's not getting any feedback until I've got the item - he's the guy with 1 positive feedback whereas I have much more and it's 100%, so I think I'm being reasonable in expecting it to happen that way round. Paypal it would seem, agree.

Guess we'll have to see what he sends next!
 
More contact!

am not sure how I can make this any clearer for you than already in my messages and Item description: No Payment, No Item. Repeat NO Payment No Item. When the funds clear in about 30 days (or if positive feedback left) I will post if postage is paid or allow collection. This is the last time I sell BMW parts due to the buyers/owners they seem to attract (the wrong sort and total you know what). Sticking to decent cars/owners in future.

Why does he think its my problem that Paypal are messing him around?

I've paid him!
 
Can I do that? Perhaps if I raise a dispute somebody from Paypal will email him and explain it's not my problem or anything to do with me that he hasn't got the money?
 
I get the impression he doesn't understand Paypal and thinks I've not paid him.

Whatever, he's an idiot. But as always I want the item. Sigh..
 
Hi there,

I have paid you in full. I paid you in full yesterday - £XX has left my bank account.

If the funds have not cleared this is becuase you have setup a new Ebay account and not becuase of anything I have done. Had you an established Ebay account I can only assume the money would have cleared instantly - I've certainly never had issues receiving money myself.

I am a trustworthy individual as my feedback shows - if the wheel is as you describe it I see no reason why I won't be leaving positive feedback as soon as it arrives.

Consider it from my point of view. I have paid £XX to an Ebay user with a new account and zero feedback. Would YOU leave positive feedback before getting anything in that circumstance?

Rest assured I am not a 'typical' BMW owner and have paid you in full, in good faith.

I respectfully request that you either allow collection of the item, or return my money.

Sound alright?
 
What's the typical bmw owner bit all about?:p

Read one of my posts where a reply of his can be found. He goes into some sort of bizarre anti BMW rant :p

And typically the negative feedback box never gives you enough space to actually explain anything.
 
So even when I receive the item, if I recieve it, I cannot negative him over the whole experience because if I do he wont get paid?

Had another message from him this morning. He is convinced I have deliberately sent him a 'held payment'.
 
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