PC Build advice (based on Titan Envy M DC)

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Hi,

I’m new here. I’m going to buy a new desktop and was thinking on the “Titan Envy M DC” with the config bellow.
My problem at the moment is the budget I will have maybe not enough to get this machine, so I wanted to try to find a 2nd (cheaper config) just in case I can’t buy the Titan Envy and ask Overclockers to build it.

If possible can I ask your help/advice for a bit cheaper config with a i7 4790 (non-k), mobo H97 and a nice and silent air cooler, please? (other components will stay the same).

This machine will be for motion design/3d work and a bit of games. I mainly use Cinema 4d and AfterEffects (along other Adobe software).
There will be weeks I will need to leave the computer rendering for 2-4days full cpu or gnu (after effects uses Cuda for speeding up the render. C4d is at the moment 100% cpu power to render).

Maybe in future I will also use a external C4d render engine that use both cpu+gpu (or Gpu only). If that happens, I might want to add a 2nd graphics card to have more Cuda power, but at the moment and next few months, one Gpu (a 770) will be more than enought.
Also a 2nd SSD for cache. Just saying this, because I’m afraid if the power supply will be enough for this extras.

Thanks for the help
Daniel


Titan Envy M DC config:

Case: Corsair Obsidian 350D Micro ATX
Power Supply: Super Flower 550W PSU
CPU: Intel Core i7 4790K Devil's Canyon Haswell Processor overclocked to 4.5GHz
Motherboard: Asus Z97 Gryphon (Socket 1150) DDR3 Micro ATX Motherboard
Cooler: Corsair H100i CPU
RAM: 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 2133MHz
HD 1: Samsung 120GB820 Evo
HD 2: Seagate Barracuda2T
GPU: Nvidia GeForce GTX 770 4Gb
Os: Win 8 (is there any reason or bonus to have win 8 pro instead?)
 
Hi,

If you wanted to ammend the spec of that system, we can do that for you and get back to you with an ammended price if you wish?

*edit* for a home user there arent really any major advantages to having the pro operating system
Chris
 
Bicepo said:
Hi,

If you wanted to ammend the spec of that system, we can do that for you and get back to you with an ammended price if you wish?

*edit* for a home user there arent really any major advantages to having the pro operating system
Chris
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Hi,
if you can send me a amended scpec I will appreciate, thanks.
Can you guys propose an equivalent H97 mobo and a good air silent cooler (will be rendering a lot during night)?

Thanks for the help
 
Hi,

Yes I can quote that, I have changed the board over to the MSI H97 G43, the processor and the cooler to the Alpenfohn K2 mount doom.

The Mount Doom is pretty quiet, not the quietest on the market but it does use PWM fans so the volume will scale depending on the temperature of the system, most of the noise will probably be generated by the GPU and PSU fans. We can change these parts also but that really depends on your budget.

With regards to the GPU will you benefit from the extra memory for rendering? as the 2GB card is quite a bit cheaper if you are looking at saving a little more.

Regards

Chris
 
Hi,
the Alpenfohn K2 mount doom sounds nice. I maybe won´t need to change GPU and PSU fans, my renders will at the moment 70% Cpu only.

Can you tell me if there is any major difference between the Asus mobo and this Msi you suggest? I'm completely out of the game regarding Mboards. Just need one that work stable and well while rendering lots of hours in a row (3years ago had one that started to have a slight bend/deformed in the cpu area, I assumed it was because of heavy render hours. Still, it was working well).

Regarding the GPU, at the moment 2GB are fine for my needs, I was aiming for 4Gb thinking in the future (end of the year might satart using GPU 3D Rendr engine).
GPU 3D renders engine at the moment, as far I have been seeing, are dependent of gpu ram (ex. if I have a scene with more ram usage than the gpu have, won´t render).
Been reading about a new render engine version using CUDA6 and unified gpu+system memory but they don't have a release date.

If I want to add a 2nd GPU in the future , will the PSU be enought (and the mobo)? (no SLI needed in the mobo. It will be for render only)


Thanks for the help.
Regards
 
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Hi,

In years gone by there used to be a massive difference between the Asus and MSI boards, however they have really stepped up their game and they are easily on par with Asus now.

The 2gb GPU will be fine for you i'm sure the larger memory sizes only really come in useful when you use larger Resolutions.

With regards to SLI, the system probably wouldn't be suitable as it is, with the case size being as small as it is air flow and heat can become an issue when using SLI within such small confines, The PSU and board also wouldn't support it unfortunately, a Z97 board would be the way to go really. Something Like this as it will support SLI in the future

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-270-MS&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=2811

I have also been looking at the cooler options, the mount doom may not be the best way to go as it can be very tight between the bottom of the cooler and the back of the Primary GPU. so it may be better to work with something like this;

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-012-PT&groupid=701&catid=2330&subcat=2348

Chris
 
Hello,

my main concern with the gpu will be if I start using/loading large amount of high res textures, although not happening at the moment. Starting to think the 2Gb gpu is the way to go for now.
And if I really enter into GPU 3D render for commercial work and need proper power, then invest into something like 780ti or even a Titan, regarding my needs.

About the SLI, I didnt explain well, sorry. I don't need a motherboard with Sli capability, since the gpu render engines I'm looking to use, they "don't like" Sli. This render engine work better and faster without gpu's in Sli mode (and let you have diferent gpu's like a 770 together with a titan for example working at the same time).

So just need a motherboard that can have 2 gpu plugged in (the 1st Msi looks like it can, but need to be sure it handles well/it fits 2).
The PSU maybe better to be already ready for 2 gpu's also, just in case.

Regarding the case, if is to small, dont know if I should already buy a bigger one or stay wiht the 350D and then if the 2nd GPU arrive, buy a new one (at the moment was trying to buy a smaller case). Need to think a bit about it.
Im ok with he new cooler you advise, just looked into a review it seems to have nice temperatures/noise level.


Thanks
 
Hi,

Yeah the GPU option sounds sensible, The option of adding another GPU in a MAtx build probably isn't the best route to go down, converting to ATX would be the best bet, there isn't much of a difference in costs either to be honest.

You could put it in something like this which has excellent airflow out of the box;

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-168-CS&groupid=2362&catid=1489

We can add a larger PSU in there aswell, you would probably need something around the 750/850w mark if you want to run dual GPU in the future.

Have a think about it and then give us a shout

Chris
 
Hi,

the case seems nice, but I have the problem that i'm looking for one with 23cm max width and 50cm max height (want to place it in between 2 desks legs and only have that space) can you suggest other one?

Does the MSI H97 G43 will handle well 2 Gpu's (whithout Sli) or still need a Z97 like the MSI Z97M for that?

Sorry all trouble and questions.
At the moment just need to decide witch MB, case and Psu to go and check if the price will rise that much, all the other components will go with i7 4790 / 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 2133MHz / Samsung 120GB820 Evo / Seagate Barracuda2T / Nvidia GeForce GTX 770 2Gb / Win 8.

Thanks
 
Hi,

The board will need to be changed but it can be changed with an ATX version of the H97 to keep costs down.

I will have a look at what ATX case options we have with optimal airflow

Chris
 
So Case you could go for this,

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-063-CS&groupid=2362&catid=1489

Which is a good entry level ATX case which has good airflow and should fit in the space you have with a little wiggle room.

The board we can change to;

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-273-MS&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=2813

This board is practically the same cost as the Matx board.

If you are happy with those I can finalise the quote with the other parts and bigger PSU.

Chris
 
Hello,
yes, I'm happy with that, you can send me the quote with those specs.

Forgot to ask, this system still have the 24 months collect and return warranty as the others prebuilds right?


Thanks for the help
 
Hi,

They have just let me know that they have received your email, they have just replied. No worries, I hope it meets your requirements :)

Chris
 
dangomes said:
Already seen the email, all ok.
Just forgot to add that I will need a wifi card also.
Will reply to the email asking to add it (maybe something like this one http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=NW-048-TP&tool=3

The router will be 3~4 meters away from the pc in the same room, this one should be fine, but fell free to suggest other.

Thanks for the help
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It'd be better to go with a Wireless USB adaptor if it were me.

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1 x TP-Link 300Mbps Wireless-N USB Adapter (TL-WN821N) £8.99
Total : £11.27 (includes shipping : £1.90).

 
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