PC build cooling setup

Tony123

Tony123

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Hi my 18 month old build is :-
ROG STRIX X570-F GAMING Mother board
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 8-Core Processor, 3801 Mhz, 8 Core(s), 16 Logical Processor(s)
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 64.0 GB
AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT
Main board and CPU is water cooled and GPU fan cooled, with 6 4" fans.

All games have no problems but one game overheats my PC
I have followed youtube video`s of configuring the GPU and I got an extra 30% out of it.
Though the CPU still seems a little hotter than usuall.
2month`s ago I had the PC stripped, cleaned, fresh fluid and fresh paste. Also full bios update.
About a month ago I accidently updated the BIOS and I think this messed up my water cooling. I did this before just after the build, and after taking it back to get it checked, the updated BIOS reversed the cooling system on my PC, as I started to get a lot of crashes and freezes.

Im asking, how do I check my pump settings in bios and adjust so they function properly? I did have a look but cant make head`s or tail`s of it.
Also are there any apps that can be used in windows 10 that I can easily adjust and monitor the pump settings and temp?
I can adjust the GPU fans with Adrenalin app.

Current issue is the CPU temp has gone from 60 deg C to 70-75 deg C, this 15c jump seems to cause a shut down after an hr or so at constant temp jump. At 60 no issues. And assuming the pump needs readjustment if my BIOS update changed the settings.
Thanks
 
The cpu sitting at 75 wouldn't cause any problems in itself, although if it's cooking other components then that might be an issue.

It sounds like you're saying your cpu is on water but it's not clear if that's a custom loop or an AIO? And your GPU is air cooled, with a bunch of case fans feeding it?

If you don't have a temp monitoring tool then where are you getting the 60 and 75 degree figures from? Knowing what the pump is would help, if it's an aio and is connected to a fan header then you could control it that way, but if the bios has been set to default then it will likely be following a temp curve (or running at full tilt constantly) which wouldn't lead to a problem. Realistically, unless your pump is barely running, it won't be causing you the problems. More likely is that the bios might have beren tweaked to undervolt and the update has reset things to just cram maximum voltage through the chip at all times, causing unnecessary power consumption/heat output. Either that, or the fan curve is now screwy on the fans attached to the rad.
 
TBH im new to water cooling, and I dont know my setup, I never kept up with the tech so dont understand most of the new gear out now. Yes its a watercooling issue as had the same before, and 75 is too high it locks up and crashes only pressing the reset button will restart. I Monitoring is done though Adrenalin software I can monitor the temps there. the GPU is easy to setup as well as the CPU though the same software, but I cant control the water system. I know its though the BIOS but dont know what to change. As the shop said yes the water cooling was backward. running full pelt when CPU cold and off when temp high
 
75c shouldn't crash that cpu
If it hits 90c it will start to throttle
75c is a perfectly fine temperature
For a 5800x under load

An extra 30% out of the gpu?
You counting 30% over base clocks?
Not over boost clocks
Either way the gpu overclock is most likely the problem
Not the 75c cpu temperature

For fan and pump speed control
You should be able to use asus ai suite (smart fan section of it)
Might be called fan expert in ai suite
Pump you might as well set at 80% and leave it
No real gain over that %
And no real need to ramp pump up and down
Fans you have the option
A steady speed or speed up and slow down
Based on temperature
 
I didnt say I overclocked it I have underclocked it

My system runs fine at 60 65 tops. anything over crashes it out, As I say I did take it to a shop and they reset the water pump to where it should be and for 18 months no issues. I managed to find a decent YT video on setting up best performance with out loosing too much gfx, basics is turn off un nessasery features for GPU, No the CPU isnt overclocked my PC is more powerful enough, readjusted the GPU freq to 2600 min and 2700 max thats 100 below max and under volted by 90mv. After doing this my fps jumped 30% higher than before also GPU temp dropped from 75 average to 65 average. this has cut out GPU issues and crashes, but still getting CPU issues. My cpu will run all day with no issues at 60. but over 70 after a short period the system crashes out. Ill have another look at AC, if that dosent work ill take it back and get them to reset it.
 
It's the way you worded it
An extra 30%
Sounds like an overclock

But anyway
Even undervolting it may be the issue
For troubleshooting everything should be run at stock speed
And voltage

A simple way to see fan/pump rpm
Use free software hwinfo
It will tell you what rpm is on what motherboard header
Though you may not be able to tell
Which is a fan and which a pump
Unless one has a rpm that you know is too high for a fan
Same if you use asus ai suite
You won't know which is which
Until you increase the rpm beyond what is a fans rpm
Then you will know which header the pump is on
 
I was running stock till I update by BIOS by mistake and I started to get issues thats why I adjusted my settings. I got AC working and main fans are now running 100% see if that makes a difference, cpu fan is saying 2288 rpm, AIO pump 2260 rpm.
 
bios update can affect everything
including stuff in pcie slots like a gpu
or make your cpu unstable etc
wouldnt be first time i have had to roll back bios update
because it caused problems rather than improved things

but now you have control of fans and pump
see what happens
your AIO pump may be able to go higher rpm
though would need to know which AIO to be sure
unless its already as high as the software can put it too
 
Mcnumpty2323 said:
bios update can affect everything
including stuff in pcie slots like a gpu
or make your cpu unstable etc
wouldnt be first time i have had to roll back bios update
because it caused problems rather than improved things

but now you have control of fans and pump
see what happens
your AIO pump may be able to go higher rpm
though would need to know which AIO to be sure
unless its already as high as the software can put it too
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Tbh im not going to mess the with bios again, I could prob roll it back but that might make it worse or not restore prev settings, yea unfortunately the AC only has basic settings either silent, standard, turbo or full speed I cant individually change speeds or max them out if thats possible
 
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Don't use armoury crate
Use asus AI suite
Gives full control in there
Armoury crate is a PITA anyway
Sometimes works other times doesn't
The only thing I need Armoury crate for is my
Motherboard oled display
But for months now it won't even enter the motherboard section
The idea is OK but AC is trying to do too many things at once
The asus forums are full of people with AC issues

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AC might allow full control
if you go into devices section then motherboard
thats the part that wont open for me so cant check
 
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thanks for the info, I can only get AI suite 3 which some people say is the same thing. With AC I maxed out the water pump and seems to be keeping it under 60c, I havent tested yet, but so far for the last hr no issues, ill try AI3
 
Thanks again for the help. From AI suite, I can adjust everything I need to. Yes my system has a threshold set. My GPU has a max temp of 80c before shutdown. Adjusting GPU to under power it has helped also limiting the FPS also decreased the temp back to 60-70c
CPU is set at 75c threshold before shut down. and the water pump was throttled down. Ive ramped this up to run regardless if it needs it or not. Results are much better its back where it should be around 60c and has a +- 5c or so does occasionally get to 70 for a few seconds.
Rechecked all drivers, only one out of date was the sound card drivers, now up to date havent tested yet.

Is there away to check the logs on a system failure to see exactly what is going on? Assuming a log is created if the PC crashes and or the reset button is pressed etc.
 
Thanks found the logs, and errors, wow 18k+ erros, 99% of them are to do with EAC and causing my system to crash for no reason and not freezing my system
 
The logs will almost never tell you anything about hardware instability unfortunately.

I kow you're super hesitant to go back into the bios for whatever reason, but if youre temps are fine and it's not software/windows related (which it seems you've ruled out) when it will likely be something that was changed when you updated the bios. Usually settings are fully reset to default when you update which would cover a multitude of sins.

Even something as simple as an XMP profile not being set right could cause the problems you're describing. Or another classic (if you're using a pci riser) would be having a 3.0 riser and trying to run it at 4.0 speeds, which I managed to fall foul of myself.
 
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