PC Gaming Future Advice and Best games

R.P.L said:
An OC'd Q6600 and a decent GPU is still enough to play any game pretty comfortably.
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Yeah I just got my son a Q6600 with a 5870, he can play all of today's games, sure he can't max them all but he can play them at better detail then the console counterpart where options allow. The problem we do have with today's ports is they are not optimized nearly good enough for PC's if they were we would need a lot less power to run stuff then we currently do. I believe resi evil 5 is a good example of a game that was made on the PC then ported to consoles. Resi Evil 5 still looks great imo and would run on a coffee maker, we have games that look a lot worse needing twice as much power.
 
Spec is;

Asus Rampage IV
Intel i7 3930K
32GB of Corsair 2133
ASUS GTX680 DC U II
AX1200i
Corsair GTX 120GB x2
Seagate 500GB Momentus XT (Games)
2 x SATA III 3TB Seagate HDD



H100 with upgraded SP120 fans (push/pull)
800D with upgraded AF140 fans
Corsair Cooling & Lighting Kit

Cyborg V7 Keyboard
Rat 7 Mouse
Corsair Vengeance 2000 Headset

Benq 2420T 3D 120hz Monitor


Think that's everything
 
Hold on A min, you went and spend 3k on a PC and never thought for one sec of games you will be playing?
You should have reviewed what PC gaming offers you and then make you choice if 3k build is worth it.
 
I knew what games I wanted to play but want some recommendations also.

Generals 2, BF3, MOH Warfighter & BF4 are games I had in mind when building this pc plus my work + personal projects hence the X79 platform. I just want to know if I should keep my xbox & its games or go down to my local store & exchange it for the console versions.

Games I am referring to are ones like Max Payne 3 & Fifa and also will I be wanting the next gen console or will my PC still be going strong which I think and hope it will.
 
mkelbie said:
I knew what games I wanted to play but want some recommendations also.

Generals 2, BF3, MOH Warfighter & BF4 are games I had in mind when building this pc plus my work + personal projects hence the X79 platform. I just want to know if I should keep my xbox & its games or go down to my local store & exchange it for the console versions.

Games I am referring to are ones like Max Payne 3 & Fifa and also will I be wanting the next gen console or will my PC still be going strong which I think and hope it will.
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Thats good to know :) Max payne 3 on PC is superb way better than consoles version. The same with Fifa 13 playing the game with higher FPS is a hole new ball game :p

If rumors are true PS4 2014/2015 so the chances are your GPU will start to struggle, I find it very hard why you never went with SLi tho? you have 120hz screen and with a single GPU you will never get this on games like BF3 high demanding games, Unless you start to lower graphic setting way down.
 
I run BF3 1080p @ 120hz with 100+ fps ultra settings. I am going down the SLI route but once I have my 3D surround monitors and then a full loop. Just wanted to get the system going and since I hit 3K already I put the project on hold.
 
mkelbie said:
I run BF3 1080p @ 120hz with 100+ fps ultra settings. I am going down the SLI route but once I have my 3D surround monitors and then a full loop. Just wanted to get the system going and since I hit 3K already I put the project on hold.
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The problem is that within 12 months Haswell and new generation GPUs from Nvidia and AMD will be out.

That is the danger of investing an excess amount on a PC build. My PC didn't cost as much as yours but I bet benching games the difference will be negligible if any. Out of interest what overclocks settings you running on the system?
 
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this year i have owned a 2500K with a 570 DCUII a 2700K with a 6970 and now my existing system and despite the claims a 2500k is enough and for 1080p you dont need SLI or a 680 I can honestly say I in my opinion my PC now feels more comfortable with all the extra "unused" power and I know its not used for existing games but at the time it seemed the best build.

I was going for ivy z77 ROG board & a 3770k and the price difference between that and the 3930K and Rampage IV was max £200. Best £200 I have ever spent.
 
mkelbie said:
I was going for ivy z77 ROG board & a 3770k and the price difference between that and the 3930K and Rampage IV was max £200. Best £200 I have ever spent.
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It is if you are clocking. That is what the Rampage IV is for. Lovely CPU and system clocks. What extra you got out of the 3930k on the board?

I decided against the i7 and went for the i5 3570k as it is a great clocking chip. I know the i7 has hyperthreading, but since it isn't a feature set used in gaming I decided that the upgrade to the i7 wasn't really worth it, despite the low cost.
 
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I don't think there is gonna be a huge leap in graphics next-gen. I think it's gonna be lil' thinks, such as all game have to be in 720P (Games Like Bioshock, Blops, Gta 4, and more didn't even run in 720p on PS£) as a baseline, and some AA (Even if it is less noticeable sitting at a coach, etc.) There's no way they are gonna have 680 power, considering they cost a lot and the companies want to make a profit overall. And other clonsoles like the WiiU and even the Ouya will be compition. Parents who know siltch about video games will buy a £300 Wii u over a £700 Ps4/Nextbox.
 
I like to build my PC for certain games, not to future proof for X amount of years because you never know what engine is around the corner and how taxing it will be. I built this PC for Planetside 2, Guild Wars 2 and Battlefield 4. It handles the first 2 with ease and seeing how it blasts through BF3 it should be fine for BF4, so I know I am set for at least 2 years with this setup.
 
I love my X79 system and its all about choice, why buy a ford focus that will do the 70mph limit on the motorway when you can buy a c class merc that can do the 70mph limit but looks and feels so much better :)

Thats my way of looking at it as personally the difference was only the £200 extra for the CPU, the ram board GPU and even probably the case I would have got the same whether it was z77 or x79.
 
I see your logic here, as you should always have more than enogh cpu power to lay waste to any game.

The same was said when x58 was 1st released but I had that and a 920 since release and only upgraded due to the mobo not supporting pci-e 3 and native sata 3. Apart from that, a quad core 920@4ghz is still more than any game needs. So a hex core [email protected] sould last a good 3 maybe 5 years till you "need" to upgrade.

But GPU wise @ ultra high res like 3x1080 or 2560 res's, 680 sli might last the same time 3-5 years but..... you'll probably be playing on the lowest settings and no AA which defets the point of a "high end" pc

The best thing to do here is sell up and upgrade every year and stay on the bleeding edge of hardware as the last gen gpu's always sell well when the latest hardware is released.

Hope this helps :)
 
mkelbie said:
I love my X79 system and its all about choice, why buy a ford focus that will do the 70mph limit on the motorway when you can buy a c class merc that can do the 70mph limit but looks and feels so much better :)

Thats my way of looking at it as personally the difference was only the £200 extra for the CPU, the ram board GPU and even probably the case I would have got the same whether it was z77 or x79.
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I can't help but notice you dodge my question twice now of your overclocking results of your machine. Get those benchmarks up.

I don't care how much extra this cost, and that cost. You seem to think that the thought of someone spending £3k on a PC should impress us? I'm an adult with disposable income. The money you spend has no relevance. At this stage I'm more thinking fool, money & easily parted. Blinded by numbers and brand names.

Cost doesn't automatically mean performance. Which you analogy also highlights. Give me a Focus ST over any 25k Merc C class. Brand isn't everything.
 
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Jesus, calm down. I didn't dodge any question, I just didn't see it as several conversations started in between posts. And at the moment its stock again and it will be staying so until I have finished doing some upgrades & a clean install. Only bench I have was AVP today which is;

Resolution: 1920 x 1080
Texture Quality: 2
Shadow Quality: 3
Anisotropic Filtering: 16
SSAO: ON
Vertical Sync: OFF
DX11 Tessellation: ON
DX11 Advanced Shadows: ON
DX11 MSAA Samples: 1
Benchmark Summary:
Number of frames: 10865
Average Frame Time: 9.6ms
Average FPS: 103.7

I did do a 3Dmark score when I had OC about 4.5ghz and it was something in the P1200+ range.

Why would I want to impress strangers? £3K is nothing on a PC compared to half of what people own on here with Extreme Editions & QUAD SLI Rigs so its the last place I would come to if I wanted to impress. You can think I am a fool but I know myself why I chose "brands and numbers" I did but I will say 1 thing... I would never choose a Focus over a Mercedes. You are missing the point with my reference, a Mercedes costs more because build quality and its value which makes it far superior to a focus ST.

Take a 5 year old C class Merc & a Focus ST, see which can still do its job well and holds its value a lot more. That was my reference when using a car as a metaphor.
 
They both gonna reach that 70mph limit in the same amount of time as in the beginning. It's not a good comparison, except only if you talk about the performance and the "feeling" of owning something expensive/or with a higher desirability.

If you take out the "looks" of some piece of hardware and talk only performance, your CPU may score the same results as a much cheaper one at stock or with OC. Some games may use that extra power, but in a small way that makes it irrelevant and one or two, may give a solid boost.

Talking about value, the high end and ultra high end will always leave a bigger hole in the pocket when you gonna sell them, compared to a mainstream part.

But this is true if you're looking from a price/performance point of view. If satisfying your hobby is the main goal, almost nothing is to much... even a curved monitor for some nice immersion. :)
 
I was not looking for a price/performance point of view when I purchased my system. I was thinking future proof and upgrade options and my opinion is X79 was the best option for me and for only £200 more for the board/cpu compared to z77 I chose well.

This whole debate is not what I was asking, I was merely asking if I could sell my xbox and replace my console games with PC versions and also when next gen consoles drop and developers have more to play with will I have to invest in a new console or will my PC still be going strong with at most a 3rd GPU for 3way SLI or some relatively cheap upgrade

The car reference was just an example to say people even buy the 3960X when its so much more than a 3930K just like people buy Mercedes or even Ferraris when you can buy a Ford. I chose the 3930K cause it seemed the best choice to me, 2700K did a lot for me but I felt a 3770K was on a sinking ship in regards to chipset/socket and I would only want to increase my SLI in the future not most of my system. I actually think I am right in saying if intel do 8core cpus they will be on the LGA2011 socket and still supported on X79, no doubt there will be a new chipset but least I am not left out. And that decision was to hopefully survive the next jump in game development for next gen consoles.
 
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~>Dg<~ said:
basically it wont

next year in november time the new xbox will launch with the new cod which is rumored to use the unreal4 engine

unreal 4 engine 680 gtx = 30 fps :p

there isnt any games at moment other than bf3 that push pcs really and wont be until next year when like said unreal4 engine is out.

so sli 680 gtx will probably net you 60 fps constant on that

console will run it at 30 fps at 720

so there you go pay 300-400 for console or 2000 grand for pc and 60 fps

i wont upgrade my graphics card until unreal drops as there is no point.


your pc will be good for two to 3 years tops. it wont outlast the next gen xbox or ps . they last between 5-10 years.
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Battlefield 3 the only game to test pc hardware? What you been smoking.

Shogun 2 to be honest.

Either way mate your computer will be good for 3-5 year probably a lot longer with most games being console ports these days. maybe when the next gen consoles are released they'll start making more things for PC to actually put a little strain on our hardware.

Lets face it PC gaming isnt as good as it once was most games use low spec so most people can play them especially MMOs and the like. Rome 2 probably the only game thats going to push our machines a little further.
 
I don't get it.
A cheaper system could knack yours in gaming performance as your budget was stupidly spent in all honesty.

You could have had an i5 ivy and SLI 680's which in gaming is going to best your system which cost a shed load more.

I mean, sure go all out by all means, but seems silly with what you're hoping.

Intel's mainstream platforms are nice and easy to upgrade to as well, so Haswell coming out in 2013 should be cheap enough to jump into without too much of a loss on your 1155 gear (Had you went Ivy) and you'd have a nice performance boost.
 
Why do you keep saying I wasted my budget.... the only difference I chose was 3930K and Rampage IV instead of a 3770K and the Z77 Maximus. Everything else would have costed the same like my SSDs, HDDs, GPU CASE PSU. They would have all been the same and I was always going to get a 120hz monitor, are you going to tell me now that my eyes can only see 60fps so I have wasted my money there. I dont understand how you can claim I have been stupid.

I could have built an i5 system with a 560ti but I didnt want that, I wanted a board that supports 4 way SLI, quad channel memory, 6 core CPU and in my eyes I spent an extra £200 to achieve that and getting x79 doesnt change the price of my case, psu, gpu & the rest of my hardware.

And all I am hoping is next upgrade will be 3D surround so SLI is a must and after that like its just been said games might get more demanding with next gen consoles so if necessary I can go 3way SLI and make use of my 2 extra cores and not have to build a new system again or at least new board/ram/cpu/gpu uprades.
 
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