PC Tax - Nooooooo!

vonhelmet said:
I'm on 56K.
/points

/laughs

 
oh oh oh... we breathe air, they'll probably tax that in the future if they know they can make a profit :o

dont mind paying as the bbc does produce a lot of decent material but i wont be impressed if its going to be ££££££. how exactly will the govern or monitor something like this? via isps?
 
AJUK said:
It comes as no surprise whatsoever with this bunch. They are also considering taxing us for emptying our bins, something that we already pay for in council tax.

They can't help themsleves, never trust a socialist. :p
Exactly right, except I would change the :p to a :mad: ... is there literally nothing that this bunch of crooks won't slap a tax on?
 
Doesn't the tv license also pay for all the radio stations, website etc? I know I browse the bbc's website a good few times a day (I get bored at work and like to check the footy news) and I often listen to Steve Wright/Jonathan Ross on Radio 2.. I'd be gutted if I had to pay for these services separately.
 
Just another to the list of taxes the government charges, its amazing how much they take then they spend it so stupid and put the punishment on us. Anything the UK has, the government will want to tax in one form or another. Its gonna ruin the country soon, slowly theyre messing it up heh
 
zain said:
Just another to the list of taxes the government charges, its amazing how much they take then they spend it so stupid and put the punishment on us. Anything the UK has, the government will want to tax in one form or another. Its gonna ruin the country soon, slowly theyre messing it up heh
Every government in the post-industrial era has charged the same amount of tax, as a proportion of GDP (or GNP - I forget which).

The only difference is how the cake is sliced.
 
riddlermarc said:
Doesn't the tv license also pay for all the radio stations, website etc? I know I browse the bbc's website a good few times a day (I get bored at work and like to check the footy news) and I often listen to Steve Wright/Jonathan Ross on Radio 2.. I'd be gutted if I had to pay for these services separately.

Of course, we're paying for everyone else in the world to be able to use the BBC services for free.

Love it.
 
Borris said:
Every government in the post-industrial era has charged the same amount of tax, as a proportion of GDP (or GNP - I forget which).

The only difference is how the cake is sliced.

lol so youre saying that the UK charges the same levels of tax as other countries? :S Or just talking about the UK?
 
Mikeyboy said:
Of course, we're paying for everyone else in the world to be able to use the BBC services for free.

Love it.

Are the any figures stating how much is spent on web services? I can't imagine it's comparable to TV services which are only available in the UK.
 
Well the way I see it, this is a replacement for the TV license so it wouldn't be an extra tax (assuming you have a TV license already).

Surely with everything going digital it would be possible to make the BBC subscription based? That suits everyone. If you don't want the BBC, just ITV, C4, etc. then you don't pay for it. But the BBC gets money from the people that do want it. Of course there would be ways round it but there are plenty of ways to get out of paying a TV license too.
 
Psyk said:
Well the way I see it, this is a replacement for the TV license so it wouldn't be an extra tax (assuming you have a TV license already).

Surely with everything going digital it would be possible to make the BBC subscription based? That suits everyone. If you don't want the BBC, just ITV, C4, etc. then you don't pay for it. But the BBC gets money from the people that do want it. Of course there would be ways round it but there are plenty of ways to get out of paying a TV license too.

exactly! that would be fair, not like the system at the moment.
 
AJUK said:
They can't help themsleves, never trust a socialist. :p

Adnams Drinker said:
Exactly right, except I would change the to a ... is there literally nothing that this bunch of crooks won't slap a tax on?

Let's not get confused here. The current "New" Labour government is far from being Socialist. Anyone within their ranks who shows tendencies towards Socialism is quickly silenced.

Stan :)
 
Borris said:
Every UK government since the industrial revolution, near enough.

So? I am stating the point that they take way too much regardless! I wouldnt mind if they actually put it to good use.
 
Mikeyboy said:
Of course, we're paying for everyone else in the world to be able to use the BBC services for free.

Love it.
Only the webpages I believe. I have to pay a subscription for BBC World and BBC Primetime where I live.

From your link it says "BBC World Service is funded by Government grant and not your TV licence." I'm wondering why I'm paying a subscription :confused:

I can't understand why it costs so much for the website though.
 
zain said:
So? I am stating the point that they take way too much regardless! I wouldnt mind if they actually put it to good use.

But given that the tax burden has remained fairly static, then does that not suggest, given that tax cuts are a politicians dream, that all the money actually gets used?

If there was billions of pounds being wasted that could be given back to the populace, then it would be.
 
Psyk said:
Surely with everything going digital it would be possible to make the BBC subscription based? That suits everyone. If you don't want the BBC, just ITV, C4, etc. then you don't pay for it. But the BBC gets money from the people that do want it. Of course there would be ways round it but there are plenty of ways to get out of paying a TV license too.
Yes, except that the concept behind public service TV is that there is a core TV service provided by the state. And, of course, anything provided by the state has to be funded by citizens, either through direct charges like the TV licence, or general taxation.

If you take the BBC to subscription-only, the argument is that those least able to afford subscription TV will be those that suffer. If the Beeb goes subscription only, either the current service has to be scaled back, or the cost would be higher per subscriber than the current licence fee. This is because the assumption that not all current licence-payers would subscribe is implicit in the subscription argument.

And, for a public service broadcaster, it is an anathema to deprive those least able to afford TV of that basic service, which may well be the effect of going subscription.

Besides which, people tend to look at the licence in the wrong way. There are many things that the governemt either do, or have, charged by licence. The old dog licence, for one, and road fund licence for another. At one point, the government even taxed you on the number of windows in your house (the logic being that glass was expensive, so this targeted the wealthy). The TV licence is a licence to permit you to receive TV, not a licence to receive BBC. They just use the revenue to fund the BBC.
 
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